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MBDA Prepares Meteor For F-35 Testing
TEVENAGE, England—The UK defense ministry has signed a £41 million ($52.36 million) contract that will pave the way for the integration of the MBDA Meteor beyond visual-range air-to-air missile onto the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. MBDA will perform engineering testing and design a role change kit for the missile that will allow the weapon to be readied for fitment on both the Eurofighter and the F-35. The deal also includes production of the test missiles to be used in the …
http://aviationweek.com/awindefense/mbda-prepares-meteor-f-35-testing
What had i told you guys all this time ?
Britain, MBDA cut trio of missile-related deals worth $690M
In what is expected to be the final significant military equipment announcement by the British government ahead of the June 8 general election, Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has revealed a set of missile-related orders with MBDA worth more than half a billion dollars.Official go-ahead for the start of integration work on the Meteor air-to-air missile on the Lockheed Martin F-35B;… announced by Fallon at a hurriedly arranged visit to MBDA’s Stevenage, England, site on April 21….
…the Ministry of Defence is investing £539 million (U.S. $690 million) in the orders, some of which have been sitting around for months awaiting announcement….
…Fallon’s announcement at Stevenage gave the official go-ahead for the start of the integration of the Meteor missile onto the F-35B fleet now slowly being built up by the British for use by the Royal Air Force and Royal Navy.
The defense secretary said that the MoD was investing £41 million into the Meteor’s integration and that the missiles would enter service on the F-35B in 2024. But the missile is expected to enter service even sooner next year when it begins to replace the Raytheon-made Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles on the Air Force’s Typhoon fleet….”
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/britain-mbda-cut-trio-of-missile-related-deals-worth-690m
It uses interleaving, it is near simultaneous (nanoseconds). The array is not divided and tasked in different modes at the same time, the fast switching is one of the advantages of an AESA set.
I see your point. But if the interleaving mode has such short time difference then what is the point of dividing the array into sub-arrays for different tasks ?. You will lose out on accuracy and detection range
Not what Halloweene was talking about. He was talking about different modes operating simultaneously
I beg to differ. See 1:32
LM would need to replace or re-enforce the 2nd door for such purpose. Which means more weight.
why would the bay needs to be reinforced? Aim-120 on F-35 drop launch rather than rail launch
Let’s Do More Shots
The F-35 program office is looking at adding capacity for another AIM-120 AMRAAM radar-guided air-to-air missile in each of the jet’s two weapons bays, increasing internal—and thus stealthy—missile loadout by 50 percent, program director Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan said March 22. Speaking with reporters after his speech at a McAleese/Credit Suisse conference in Washington, D.C., Bogdan said, “There is potential … to add a third missile on each side.” The upgrade would likely be part of the Block IV program of F-35 enhancements, but “that’s something I know the services and all the partners” are interested in. Bogdan said this would not require some special version of AMRAAM, but “the same AMRAAM missiles that we carry today, just an extra one; probably on the weapons bay door.” The F-35 can carry two AMRAAMs in each bay now, or a mix of AMRAAMs and Joint Direct Attack Munitions internally. “
Are there any GR4 pilots on here?
Where do you even find these pilots ?
@FBW: How do you suggest I read this graph, then? I really can’t make sense of the isoclines.
Ps=0 => Maximum sustained turn rate
in general, I don’t see why people are making such a huge fuss about either the F-16’s agility or the F-35’s agility. Neither are too agile by modern standards
From what i can gather, below 10K feet, the STR of F-16A is second to none
I get that. And its a very fine PowerPoint prospect too.
Only that engines like FM1 and 117S are very much operational today.
That is an increase of 2000-4000kgf. Do the pound thrust conversion if you want.
And ? Su-35 are heavier than early Su-27 too if you want to go that detail. Furthermore,even if late Flanker have better sustained turn rate than F-35, so what ?. His point stand, better sustained turn rate than early Flanker is nothing bad, hardly a total diaster in close combat like somes like to think. There was big different between Mirage 2000 and F-16 too and no one say those 2 can’t dogfight with each others. Mirage 2000 doesn’t even enjoy high AoA or subsonic acceleration advantage like F-35
you missed my point, I wasn’t talking about values or how this or that should be calculateed and so on.. I simply reminded that we’ve been said for years, by the F-35 fan squad, that the aircraft could go and do the fighting even heavily loaded while others couldn’t
To reach the range that F-35 can using 100% internal fuel, others fighter bar the Flanker series will need to carry external fuel tank which not only increase weight but also drag and signature.
yes, block 5.. lets not jump to conclusion. And even if it happen, how long will it take.
By then, most Flanker that exist will have better engines, like the FM1/FM2 with 13.500kgf or even 117S with 14.500kgf(see MKI).So much for the fairness of gta4 assessment and comparison.
F-35 demonstrated KPP value was considered with F-135 engine in the end of its life time with 5% reduction in thrust.
Secondly, there are programmes intended to improve F-135 thrust and fuel consumption as well as thermal signature too ,such as ADVENT engine
gta4 comparison is for current engine and weapon as far as i understand
But about the F-35. Would there not be some mission profile that would lower the Fuel state of F-35?
Yes, but we only has one KPP value now and neither me or you ( or most people here ) can make accurate estimation for different conditions
And afaik, none F-35 can carry six AIM-120 internally? So that would mean a pair ext with those big hunkin pylons with it 😉
AFAIK , block 5 will be able to carry 6 internal AIM-120, there are several plan suggest that already
Well there must be a reason for everything. Doesn’t mean it’s a good reason.
You literally just said yourself it is the only worthwhile comparison
Who cares what % of fuel there is? Comparing at given target range vs payload vs fuel used is the only worthwhile comparison.
The fact that it represents 10, 50, 60 or 90% internal fuel is totally irrelevant. Subjectivity sucks.
Nic
Well that the whole reason for equalize afterburner time comparision
However, one funny thing to notice.. we could all read ad nauseum how great the F-35 was since it carried all the stuff internally and that had negligible impact on its performance while the other designs were heavily impacted by the ordnance and/or fuel tanks carried externally…
yet, when, with similar percentage of internal fuel the F-35 can’t compete with others, all of a sudden one must reduce its internal fuel quantity so that it performs better…
It is about making a fair comparision.
With similar internal fuel percentage F-35 will has much longer AB time than others aircraft in comparision. So a fair comparision would be to give them similar AB time before you compare turn rate