mig-31bmWhat the … ?? why would you care about maneuvrability for intercepting bombers
Bomber class like B-52 or Tu-95, Tu-160 are equipped with cruise missiles that can reach 500-1000 km or more. So they will launch missiles and start to turn home before you can even get to where they are.
strike-bomber like su-34 can carry missiles to defense themselves so some agility would be necessary to protect yourself.
And obviously the tanks would be dropped before accelerating in supersonic doh
Gripen NG get a significant fraction of its combat radius from external fuel tank. If you dropped them, your range/combat time will be very short.
mig-31bmDoesn’t mean much. The gripen doesn’t have the same kind of optimally designed drop tanks ( 3 subsonic pear shaped drop tanks ). With the same kind of tanks and 3 tanks ( vs 2 in the picture ) you can give it 20-25% more range probably
665*25/100 +665 =831 km , slightly longer range than superhornet. Gripen is very small too , so 3 tanks will affect its agility and speed significantly. If pilot has to enter combat and those tanks are dropped , it probably cant fly back on internal fuel
mig-31bmwhat exactly is automatic here ? Lots of things have been automated on fighters for a long time.
moving target indicator , look at those square box
mig-31bmx55555
Aviaaaaaaaaation forum folks.
Ok, good point
mig-31bmI agree It was my mistake to reply to him in the first place. Back to aviation.
You brought some political agenda into an aviation thread and now when you get called out, you try to shift the blame?. Who are you trying to deceive?. Your mistake is not that you replied to me. Your mistake is making off topic post then resort to personal attack when faced against posters with opposite opinion.
So please MiG-31, if you are one of the sorry illuded people that think the USA or generally Western world have still an half of an hinch of morality ground to tell other people what to do, be welcome to do it in another place and above all STFU!
My position is simple: there is no innocent in politics. Each person is entitled to their own opinion However, every claims need evidence.That it. You argued with me before. You would know that i would focus on the argument rather than the posters. I would not try to ridicule their argument by calling them unemployed or young or anything similar. And while i admit that it is partly my fault to talk about politics in an aviation thread. You know that iam not the one who brought it up first. I simply reply because i find the video ridiculous.
I admire your patience with these guys.
Iam surprised with myself too.
mig-31bmBecause my first language is English I can type in seconds what to you is a long wall and would take a long time.
I could not even begin to write in another language as you are doing because it is harder if your language is Ukrainian or Russian etc.
It would took even less time to type in Google and brought the evidence links here
mig-31bmHow old are you? You know that I didn’t say you were Lukos but this is another distraction from you so you do not have answer the difficult questions
How typical. Of course you still desperately try to distract people from the real question.Just one moment ago, degrees mean nothing. Now you asking people age to show your “superiority”. What wrong?. Dont dare to debate with evidence so you have to use that cheap trick?. Are you that desperate to silence opposing opinions?
mig-31bmOh….I think I hit a nerve!
Oh.. you sure did, i get really irritated with pathetic troll
Still no answer from you why you are so worried about America when we are discussing jihadi head-choppers being in the White Helmets?
Nothing to say about these horrible people and the horrible things they are doing?…but instead you are more worried about the Americans!
Did i said i was worried about the American? i simply pointed out the fact that there are alot of anti American accusations in this thread with little to no supporting evidence. Are you so pathetic that you cant stand seeing people having an opposing view?.
and i also asked you questions in previous page, still no answer. So let me brought it back here
Only problem was that Assad was not playing ball and rejected the Qatar and Saudi offer of their pipeline across his country and soon afterwards they set up and paid for the fake “Free Syrian Army”.
When did this happened ?
And second question : Find me a video of a normal movie set where directors tell all the actors to freeze up then rolling camera recording around them for more than tens seconds then they act. Since you guys claim the video from white helmet is not Mannequin challenge
As for posters like Msphere and Marcellogo being credible and knowledgeable people can judge for themselves!
Yes people can think for themselves you dont have to try to guide their opinion.
Msphere is credible and knowledgeable? since when?. He is an average poster at best and also talking nonsense all the time. No offense to Marcellogo either but he is also an average poster at best no better than fBW, hopsalot or haavarla. And especially not comparable to actual knowledgeable poster like Andraxxus or stealthflanker. Dont believes that? feel free to open a thread to find out. And for your information , i dont claim to be knowledgeable either
People can also judge for themselves after seeing these crazy pyschos from Al Nusra/ ISIS loonies cutting off people’s heads and while also being
members of the White Helmets.
Which ISIS members that is also members of white helmet?
When I have time after I have completed my work I will post the pictures and videos and evidence that people can judge for themselves…
Funny how you dont have enough time to find evidence to answer any of my questions but have enough time to type a long wall of text dedicated to personal attack.
mig-31bmWell I am least interested in searching youtube to provide you evidence , As I have been and seen many shoots …. if you could search in youtube you may find it.
If you can find a video that support your point then just post it
mig-31bmHello mig-31bm!
For someone from Eastern Europe you seem to be very interested in America’s feelings being hurt about bad things being said about the
beheadings and killings by members of the jihadi front organisation the White Helmets!…..especially when but no one’s mentioned America at all!
Methinks you protest too much!
There is plenty of proof about the true nature of these vile thugs in the “White Helmets” and the terrible things they’ve done and you can see it in
some of the videos posted by Peregrinefalcon above.
Bu the way I would not recommend watching them if anyone is of a sensitive or delicate disposition…..this is because you can’t “unsee” these
horrible events but that you wish you could “unsee” them because they are truly horrible, especially the little boy of about 13 or 14 the jihadists
beheaded in the back of the pick up truck ….it was the horrible way when the little boy said at least have mercy and just shoot me but please don’t
behead me…as soon as he said that one of the jihadist immediately coldly said bring me my knife….look for it it’s in the kitchen…..these people are
callous sociopaths and severely damaged individuals (that’s why they are perfect to be used as cannon fodder and suicide bombers by the agencies
that control them as well as pay them and provide their weapons…..because they sure as hell don’t have any money or arms themselves and
someone is pumping it into that hellhole….read the wikileaks emails about who are the countries directly paying for this horrid war!).
I am in a real job with a lot of work to do so I will post when I have time…..as you for mig-31bm I hope you find gainful employment soon!
Was it you that posted Lukos’s degree certificate and his course notes to prove he was a credible poster? 😀 That was so embarrassing!:D
People here are smart enough to draw their own conclusions from the evidence of their own eyes and don’t need to prove they have an engineering
degree or whatever yet you posted it to demonstrate what he said was more credible! (I hope Lukos found his first real job soon after qualifying as I
said to him that in the real world (not here on the internet) he probably would be great if you were talking to him in a bar over a beer (best place for
bullsh!tting!)
You don’t need a degree to post here because you will be surprised to find people here from every walk of life and from every country, from many
different backgrounds …..some might have doctorates in every subject and while some people have no qualifications at all…..all are
equally good in that they can bring their valuable experiences and knowledge here…..some might have their own businesses…..or might be people
with work experience that is highly relevant to the subjects discussed…..so never write off anyone!
They might know a lot more than you on certain subjects whatever degree or studies you’ve done and please do me a favour don’t post
any more degree certificates because it means nothing! One of my professors was as thick as ****! 😉
Have a good weekend and I hope you make some money!
PS One of the great things about this forum is it’s a little bit like Vienna, or Checkpoint Charlie in Berlin during the cold war,
where people from every country can and do talk about aviation matters!
It was in this thread talking about the attack on the aid convoy that people like Msphere showed the Syrian Air Force had no night fighting
capabilities in their ancient machines (the attack took place at night!).
Other credible and knowledgeable posters like Marcellogo queried and showed the so-called bomb damage
purporting to be from on the aid convoy could have been caused by mortars
(similar to the ISIS mortar seen in the drone footage weaving in and out of the aid convoy).
This is truly a nasty and dirty business and the people controlling the jihadis have a lot to answer for,
especially when there will be the inevitable blowback that will affect everyone, including their sponsors.
So as usual you post a wall of text with little to no evidence to any of what you written. Because of course when you write a long post people would be lazy to look at your inaccuracies.
It quite funny how you try to personal attack me when i caught you out with your so called “staged” video.
Aww too bad, you cant argue against that so better try to attack the poster with different opinions from you. Better call him unemployed and bragging about your job so that people get distracted from the issue being discussed. Nice try, it is quite pathetic and sad how you call whoever agree with you a “knowledgeable”, “credible “posters and whoever disagree with you an” unemployed ” just to shut them up. What wrong? worried that your nonsense will be exposed if you really discuss with people? . Sorry huns but that pathetic attempt of distraction wont fool anyone.
P/s : And yes, i was the one who repost lukos degrees. Why? because someone in that topic asked for it. And i find it quite hilarious and pathetic that you guys try to shut him up by calling him troll instead of trying to debate him fairly .Before i posted it. Everyone were like “what does lukos knows, he is not an engineer ” “does he study it “, lukos is a troll”.. etc. Suddenly once i posted it, you guys start to be like” oh we dont care what he study”, ” University degrees dont mean a thing”, “Get a real job”
P/S 2: if you think iam lukos feel f**king free to check my IP and posts
mig-31bmYes , Personally I have seen many Bollywood movie shot ( not hollywood though ) and the actors are in position depending on what their shot is that so called freezeup gives the actor time to prepare mentally for the shot, The camera is moved around depending on how the shot has to be taken , they may even remain static again depending on how the director/camera guy wants to shoot it and then the shot is taken. Again these get edited as and what is to be taken later on
If that what actually happened then it would be very easy for you to get a video where that is show. I have posted Mannequin challenge video and a film set video. I jave supported my point.I believe now it your turn to support your point with evidence. Please, post a video which the practice you described happened “actor freeze up, camera moving around them and recording while they are freezing”
P/s: it is not about how evil white helmet or Western media is. I dont care either way how you think about them. But i care about evidence. All arguments and accusations need proper evidence
mig-31bmBehind the scenes of movies looks like this
Now please show me where is the part that all actors completely freeze up then camera moving around them recording for tens seconds then they start moving follow signals from director?. You said that how it works in the real world, so find me some examples then?
mig-31bmThe rescue video is just a stage managed video that got viral before it got edited by these terrorist White Helmet , Plan Simple its a fcuk up that had to be covered by Mannequin Challenge.
The actors out there were ready totally for the shot , the camera rolled and all were in perfect position , the camera was moving and they were just waiting for the action signal by who ever was shooting that sequence ,
There is nothing anti-American here , I never uttered the word America unless you feel the American owe the White Helmet folks or are funded by them and you feel offended that they were caught in the act.
You might want to believe other wise but it is your choice ….I have seen enough of White Helmet video perfectly shot under right make up and light condition with the right sound background to back it up to get the best effect for West media …..Sorry I dont buy that Mannequin Challenge argument
Alright, so the video just coincidentally looks exactly like a thounsands Mannequin challenge that been done before it. The director just coincidentally being retarded and decided to make actor stand still while moving the camera around and start recording before they ready. The actors just coincidentally being retarded also and decided to take a selfie together and uploaded it to their white helmet media account. The video editors at the same time coincidentally forget to edit the stationary part out. The uploader coincidentally being a moron and conveniently ignored the start of the video when he uploaded it to YouTube. That totally what happened but not that they tried to replicate Mannequin challenge?
That is how it works in real world it gets edited later.
According to you :in the real world, the director tell the actors to freeze up. Moving the camera around them. Recording for tens seconds, then after that signal them to start?
mig-31bmThis is what a Mannequin Challenge looks like.If you can’t see the similarly with the white helmet video then you are being delusional period.
mig-31bmThey kept it stationary because even a staged rescue has to get it right before it starts rolling , That part gets edited before While Helmet gets their PR , this time they missed or got leaked hence the Mannequin Challenge.
This is nothing to do with Anti American , The White Helmet are just plain terrorist disguised as rescue worker
Oh really? , so tell me how do they “get it right”? it is a rescue video not a *******king movie. If they wanted to fake a battlefield rescue video. There is no such thing as get it right, they can just have the victim being rescued and that it. And have you ever been on a film set? I did. And the camera doesn’t start rolling before the actors are ready. Or let me be more clear, if the actors are not ready, there is no point moving the camera and recording around them. There is no point for them to be completely stationary with camera moving around at all. It is not easy to be completely stationary and if it is to be edited out later then staying stationary is just pointless.
Also you cannot missed something like that. Have you ever uploaded a video to YouTube?. There is no way they would have missed it.
This is literally anti American attitude to the point of being delusional
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