As opposed FalconDude completely ignoring his quote and your rearrangement of it – let’s decipher it word for word, shall we?

Tell me, is 0.1m^2 a greater or smaller RCS value than 0.3m^2?

let not rearrange the words ok
here is the direct quote :

Thanks to these new design solutions,the T-50 is now ahead of not only all other fighters of the Russian Army, but also foreign models. For example, the visibility of the American fifth-generation F-22 fighter is 0.3-0.4 square meters,” said KRET,while the value of this indicator for the T-50 fighter is between 0.1 and 1 square meters.

so they did say T-50 is better than anything else, and it’s minimum RCS is 0.1 m2 while F-22 minimum RCS according to them is 0.3 m2

In the following comparison, do you think stealth figured in the ‘operational capability’ performance metric? I do.

Two different comparisons, two opposing organisations, same conclusion.

the pictures clearly show T-50 equal to F-35 but inferior to F-22, so what your point? , and operational performance included many things not just RCS, since we know T-50 fly much faster, alot more agile, there must be something hold it back that SAAB only consider it equal F-35. That may be RCS

At least i gave you the link, not my bad if you do not speak french or use auto translation.

You could have specific point the time in the video where they mentioned Rafale RCS equal a sparrows . Write down the phrase they used, so that Lukos or anyone doesn’t speak france can put that in GG translate and compared that to what they hear in the video

the claim is originated from a highly respected engineer and haed engineer on Rafale project. Do what you want with it.
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Come on, we both know that claim is outrageous, just like when LM claim their F-35 have better kinematic performance than all other 4.5 gen , or when Boeing claim their F-15SE have frontal RCS equal F-35,.etc

Thanks to these new design solutions, the T-50 is now ahead of not only all other fighters of the Russian Army, but also foreign models. For example, the visibility of the American fifth-generation F-22 fighter is 0.3-0.4 square meters,” said KRET,while the value of this indicator for the T-50 fighter is between 0.1 and 1 square meters

-_____- Jesus Ffs

Hear hear! It all sound good to me.
But if you are to play the Devils advocate here, then i suggest you play it right both ways:
Do you call this a informative discussion/input?

Ok that wasn’t informative, and it was only meant as sarcasm . But if you pay attention at the discussion from the start : it went like this :
Halloweene/MSphere : claim something quite unique about Rafale thus make it better than F-35 /Typhoon .

Lukos : claim something unique about Typhoon/F-35 that make them better than Rafale.
…… arguing bla bla bla ( both side)

Halloween/MSphere : made some dodgy claim about Rafale

Lukos : that sounds like BS, gave me the source or some evidence

Halloween /MSphere : no, a pilot on Fb told me but i cant give you his fb or i read it from some super secret source and that source is only available to me

Lukos : make fun of Halloween/MSphere or being sarcastic about Rafale fan

Halloween /MSphere : you are a troll, making fun of lukos
….. bla bla bla both side insult the others

So I think it totally unfair when you claim Lukos is a troll then claim MSphere knowledgeable. Remember why people consider JSR a troll? he making outrageous claim without anything to back up

Couple of points:

1 – Compare the pic of the EO-DAS module with the datasheet for the 4MP L-3 sensor engine.

The sensor engine is 3/4 the size of a 12-pack of beer cans (by volume). It doesn’t include the cooler, power supply or processor. That makes the EO-DAS module pretty huge. Is there anything other than the shape of the aperture end that suggests that the 4MP module is what’s in there?
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the cooler is right there, btw why do u think it doesn’t have processor or power supply ?

You can demand it, no problem with that.. But I cannot give it to you, I gave my word and will stick to it..
You don’t have to believe it, for all what’s worth..

if you don’t want to give your source then fine, your choice , but then you shouldnot be angry or call people troll if they choose not to believe you or demand evidence , since we both know you wouldn’t believe us if the situation was reverse
and the simple rules of any arguments is what is asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof

No prob… No offense taken.. I’d just like to know, what exactly is my bias now?

well i would say you have really hateful attitude towards anything related to f-35, and you seem to love Raf alot

The front of Taranis is rather a blunt point set forward of the intake unlike the Typhoon (:love-struck:), the lower half off the intake looks flat and not bulged as you would expect for any shock wave management.
(Long odd are against the nose producing a shock wave and the unusual triangle shaped inlet interacts with that wave by reducing the area of intake the higher up the triangle the wave front hits.)

That doesn’t preclude an internal ramp arrangement to slow the flow down, however the serpentine bend (like the Typhoon :love-struck:)to the turbine face its a bit tight for all that!! and it would need the spill bleed air to be managed internally i.e. could be piped to the rear to mix with the exhaust gases..

Do you really need an internal ram or front bum to allow low supersonic speed though ?
something like F-100 have intake without front bum or internal ram and it can still reach mach 1.3

I cannot.. Not that a PM from other forums would persuade you, anyway.
Nevertheless, take it as a piece of info you can work with.. Or start a d!ck comparison contest instead and scream “gimme a source” in every upcoming message and next time I won’t tell you even that much. If I wanted to lie, I would say at least 4K.

Ok, think about it this way, If someone here claim that Aim-120 is alot more agile than Mica or that EOTS have significant better range, FoV, Scanning speed than OFS, i bet that you and halloweene will scream ” give a source” otherwise you wouldn’t believe that, and for sure you wouldn’t accept a PM from other forums anyways
( just like when you want lukos to prove CAPTOR-E have electronic attack ability )
So I think it only fair if we also want a source for your claim