Today, the F-35C could fly 670 miles (like 1080 km, correct if I am wrong and the flight profile that apply is different) and launch AMRAAM against a Tu-22M3 which could dash to Mach 1.8+ and launch from ca. 1000 for Kh-32, probably more for Kh-47M2. To do that he would need to detect the Tu and do it with enough time to intercept at those extreme distances. Not an easy feat as far as I know.

Yes you are wrong

F-35C in strike profile have combat radius of 768 nautical miles, that is 1422 km for one way (2844 km for both way)
F-35C in air to air profile will fly even further since it carry lighter load,
Tu-22 is not a stealth aircraft by any stretch of imagination, and it is not maneuver either so AIM-120D max engagement range can be used
Secondly, instead of making F-35 dash to Tu-22 location, you can set some of them patroling at 800-900 km ahead of the carrier, their engagement range with AIM-120 create a bubble that Tu-22 have to past through if it want to launch Kh-32

AFAIK this version of JASSM is expected for 2023, and MQ-25 is also not operational. As said, let us concentrate in existing weapons systems. If you want to consider prospective weapons then you should consider Russian hypersonic missiles and ballistic missiles not any more banned by INF. My point is that it is easier and cheaper for the defending side.

MQ-25 had been tested, eventually it will come to the fleet, just like JASSM-XR, neither system really use some super innovative technology
We can also consider Russian hypersonic weapons but then we shouldn’t ignore US hypersonic counterpart such as ARRW, TBG, HAWC, HSSW ,HCSW …etc it is a constant arm race after all.

How many of those manoeuvring hypersonic targets can AEGIS reliably defeat? Considering that it has been tested zero times against it?

I don’t think AEGIS had never been tested against hypersonic maneuvering target, as we know Raytheon made Blue / black / silver Sparrow series

On the flip size, how many timw had DF-26 been tested against the jamming of USN fleet? Zero
how many time had it been tested against a moving target? Zero , eratic maneuver is one thing, eratic maneuver while acquiring target at flew to target is an order of magnitude harder

From what I remember USN has said they have no defences against such missiles. And of course China can produce 1, 100 or 1000 missiles, this is no big deal.

I also remember USN claim anti ship ballistic missiles aren’t very useful, and it is a very big deal to produce 1000 ballistic missiles, both in term of time and cost, do China even have that many ballistic missiles currently?

[USER=”58228″]mig-31bm[/USER]

Regarding carrier operations:
> Russia fields Tu-22M3 with range of almost 7000 km carrying Kh-32 and Kh-47M2 with range in excess of 1000 km. Now with US withdrawing from INF treaty, they will be free to create M/IRBMs (by simply adding stages to a Iskander for instance) with the ranges they consider appropriate, manoeuvring RVs and extremely short flight times in the anti-ship role.
> China has already the DF-21 with 1700 km range but also the DF-26 with estimated 5400 km range.

Now tell me how a 400 km range CM changes anything in regards of carriers being massively outranged and therefore essentially unusable against those countries. If you had kept your claim limited to less capable militaries you would have a point, but the way you put it your statement is simply not accurate IMO

Firstly, no sane person want to eject a few thounsand km from the shore and in the middle of the ocean, so you can’t use the 7000 km ferry range of Tu-22 , the bombers have to go back as well, so we are left with around 4400 km combat radius for Tu-22M3 and 2400 km for others version, very impressive, however Kh-32 range is 1000 km, that is deep within the combat radius of F-35, and therefore, Tu-22M can be shot down if they want to get inside strike distance with that missile.

Secondly, carrier aircraft don’t just launch their missiles right on top of their aircraft carrier, so the strike range of a carrier will be the combat radius of its air wing+ the range of their missiles,
JSOW-ER/JSM max range is 550 km
LRASM/JASSM-ER/ MALD max range is 910-1000 km
JASSM-XR max range is 1852 km
F-35C combat radius is 650 nm, can be extended by 52% with MQ-25 refueling so it can fly 1829 km from the carrier then came back
=> max strike range of a carrier is 3618 km from its location.
That is enough to keep the carrier completely safe from Su-35/Mig-35 with Brahmos or Mig-31 with Kh-47M2 and similar assests as well as DF-21.
It is correct that DF-26 can fly longer, but the fewer weapons that can reach your carrier, the less Aegis defense have to work and the safer you will be. You sure understand that it is is safer to park the carrier 2000 km from the shores than parking it 10 km from the shores, same concept.

Last but not least, enemy don’t automatic know where the carrier will be and the further its air wing can strike and fly, the bigger the area enemy will have to search for, and jamming work better at distance.

Besides: USAF has already JASSM planned for F-35, so it is not only in naval warfare that stand-off missiles are available for the plane. JSOW-ER by now only requested by Navy but compatible with F-35A. We will see whether this and JSM will be ordered by USAF in the future or not.

Regarding deep strike:
F-35 has a very limited internal payload capability, so I do not quite understand how many targets you need to meet in one sortie. At most you will release 2 big weapons. Maybe mixed carriage of SDB and one bigger ranged CM could be possible too but of little value in my opinion due to the very small amount of ordnance per target and the adverse effects of countermeasures in their terminal accuracy.

You don’t send a single F-35 in deep strike mission. You can have several F-35 and the total number of missiles are much higher than 2, secondly, long range missiles give the benefit that the whole squadron can stay close together and strike targets several hundreds or thounsand km apart, instead of assigning 1 F-35 to fly to X, 1 F-35 fly to Y and 1 F-35 fly to Z , you can have them stay close together and strike all 3 locations while still able to protect each others if they got bounced

All recent attacks where something remotely close to a modern IADS is present (Syria due to Russian presence and new hardware deployed there) have been done with stand-off weapons, both by FUKUS or by IAF and despite the presence in their air forces of VLO planes. As said I try to focus on facts and they talk loud and clear.

I have to disagree
https://southfront.org/israeli-air-f…rike-on-syria/
and if you focus on fact, USA are developing short range mininature weapons as well, such as SACM small advanced capability missile and SiAW stand in attack weapons

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EDIT: BTW, look at the development of stand-off weapons for F-35 and tell me more about that stealth immunity against IADS… deeds matter, not only empty words.

There are mininature weapons being developed for F-35 as well, such as SIAW (stand in attack weapons), SACM , MSND.

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Secondly, extended range weapon offer others benefit rather than only keeping the aircraft out of harms way. With long range weapon, at any point you have a larger bubble of engagement, that is always a good thing if you can stay at point A and strike point B and C at the same time rather than have to fly through all points. Last but not least, the engagement radius of an aircraft carrier is the combat radius of its aircraft + the range of missiles on these aircraft, so long range missiles on aircraft give protections to the fleet as well, by letting them park outside the range of shore defense

First of all, we do not know if F-35 will have an ADVENT engine (SCAF will btw).

SCAF is an European paper project that probably won’t get out of the drawing board, how can you know it will get ADVENT?

Adv EOTS is just a step to keep up with advanced sniper. Present EOTS is slightly outdated and there is of laser pointing isn’t there?

Present EOTS has functions that advanced sniper doesn’t have such as automatic track while scan for A2A
Advanced EOTS add functions that advanced sniper doesn’t have also such as SWIR

CUDA is officially launched? (genuine question)

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[USER=”77048″]St. John[/USER]

ionospheric modifiers can be used to transmit higher frequencies

Do you mean weather altering machine?

I appreciate that Mod and Admin worked very hard to change the forum interface but honest, the “new” Keypublishing is significantly slower,it takes me 20 minutes for upload my post, quote and insert image function also doesn’t work anymore. Personally i think the “old” keypublishing forum is already good, why fix something that isn’t broken?