Moggy , Auster Fan,
Try your research (both on medal reciepents and also on places to buy medals) at the following two forums.
http://www.britishmedalforum.com
http://www.medalcollectors.com
Both have SEVERAL hardcore collectors who have vast amount of research reference material. They will be glad to look up your names and numbers at no cost at all. Plus hell lot of tips to start one’s own research. who knows if luck holds out there might be someone who specialilses in your grandfathers regiment.
One word of caution – never ask them where you can get ‘copies’ of medals.. they hate that :D. its absolute sacrilage to buy copies to put up in between original medals or something.
Another aspect is never buy named medals with the intent of erasing names.. or dont buy from dealers selling ‘naming erased’ medals.
Just hang around there and you will get the drift.
Regards
Jagan
Yes, very poignant..
As an aside, a note for those who might be considering investing in these lots on ebay. i have spent my time on considerable number of ‘medal collecting’ forums and the following gen may be of some interest.
For various reasons, lots like this on ebay attract skepticism and caution. the primary reason being that the WW2 UK issued medals unlike WW2 India medals were not named. And there are quite a number of unscrupulous dealers who went about collecting empty boxes and issue notes , then ‘assemble’ groups and sell them on ebay.
Normally the hardcore collectors dont touch lots unless they came with more documentation – like paybooks, logbooks, service documents, photographs etc – anything that give an established provenance from the family.
Indian Medal lots are the opposite. They are all named and can be confirmed as genuine – but they come with absolutely zero paperwork.
Pakistani WW2 medal lots are reportedly ‘assembled’ over one single named medal. And people who dont know much fall for the assembled lots.
all in all an interesting (and a thriving) field.
Canberra’s yes but I didn’t know of the B-57 variety, what are the single engined planes just a couple of hardstandings E of my pic ? ( I don’t know), also did you find the F-86 there.
P.S. I found the base just by looking in hi res areas not by any placemark, would that be in one of the layers ? I was ‘in the area’ looking at Poona/Pune, couldnt find any B-24’s their 😉
No idea on the single engine planes.. Yes I saw the Sabre. There is also another preserved B-57 on SE portion of the airfield. . There is also a Starfighter that can be seen pole mounted.
Reg Poona, LOL, lot of dissapointed folks there.. No B-24s, No Connies and No Tempests either.. though you can catch the Canberra (ramp guardian) and the MiG21 (on gateguardian duties)
How about these, type is easy but location without looking it up is ….?
Martin B57 Canberras, in the northern part of Masroor Airfield, W of Karachi…
(guess who posted the placemark on keyholebbs… :diablo: )
Try http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk for more info on the Sea Hawk and other users. There’s a great story about an Indian Sea Hawk pilot who crashed into the sea shortly after take off, and calmly waited for the aircraft carrier to pass over his head before ejecting. Some nerve!
XN923 , then you will probably like this – a more detailed first person account of someone who saw the incident.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/History/1970s/Pasricha.html
Aircraft Underwater by Vice Admiral Vinod Pasricha
Ah yes IN-189, salvaged by the US and Indian Navies in a joint exercise. However I dont think it will survive long. Its just the center section and wings.
The Helio Twin Couriers were also used by the Aviation Research Center in India. The Indian Equiv of the CIA’s Air Arm.
The Indian Navy had acquired 74 Sea Hawks. 46 from UK, 28 ex Germany. There are 12 known survivors in India. One more gifted to Germany. Atleast 20 have been written off in accidents – perhaps many more. Remaining have entered the Twilight Zone (no idea where they are)
List of survivors (from http://www.warbirdsofindia.com 😉 )
-NA- National Defence Academy. Parade Ground Pune
-NA- Derelict at INAS Garuda Cochin
-NA- Prserved Dabolim NAS Goa
IN-172 Cochin Flying Position Cochin
IN-174 Front of RBI Building Kowdiar. Trivandrum
IN-188 Vikrant Maritime Museum Bombay
IN-234 Naval Air Museum, Dabolim Goa
IN-235 IIT Chennai, Adyar. Chennai
IN-240 Victory at Sea Memorial Vizag
IN-244 Gate Gaurdian, Marmagoa Goa
IN-246 Vikrant Maritime Museum Bombay
IN-252 Madras Institute of Technology, Chromepet Chennai
When was the last Gun Vs Gun Dogfight that happened. ( Bekaa Valley? Iran/Iraq?)
Have a doubt. I have gone thru Colin Cummings Accidnets book also JJ Halleys Broken wings. there does not seem to be one Defiant Accident after October 1945, either with the RAF or the RIAF or any other wing. So is it safe to assume that the Defiants were withdrawn before that date or stopped flying around end of 45? When wold the last Defiant sortie in RAF be?
Agree with Moggy.. I would not want to clutter the said thread with “Me too!” kind of a two-word post. Ofcourse the response once the photos get posted will come.
I am sure all themembers are interested – no one in thier right mind would ignore a chance to look at new photos!!
Thanks very much Starfire. This is the sort of thing, but I was hoping for more photo’s.
Martin.
Here are a few Injun’ ones
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Classic/Tempest.html
Steve,
you should post this on the http://www.rafcommands.com board too.
http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID6&conf=DCConfID1
Jagan
All images and videos I have seen of Hawker Tempest IIs from the Indian Air Force, the pilot was always boarding from the starboard side.
-Jagan