although there has been talk of one of the two Balliol T2s in Sri Lanka finding its way home recently.
I saw one of the Balliols is with the SLAF Museum at Ratmalana – that probably wont move out of there. The Other Balliol I saw (from a great distance) was at Diyatalawa . This could be a candidate for acquisition? Though I am inclined not to think so as it is the SLAF property.
Both sightings are circa August 2003. Both aircraft are static displays and seem to be in pretty good condition.
Jagan, Mig conversion made sense when the bulk of IAF was Migs. now that onlee 120 Bisons would be around (say until 2012) and maybe 50 upg Mig27ML, cant the stageIII be done at the squadrons themselves using 2-seaters or better yet use a few 2-seater Mirage2000/Mig29 for the job? both are more reliable than using Mig21.
btw I read the HJT-16 is a direct replacement for the Kirans
so it would move one step up the ladder in the your chart imo.
The Iskras are way long in tooth and dont think poland makes
new ones anymore.
The Bisons will equip some 6-7 Squadrons and will probably be around till 2020. But atleast another 4-5 Bis/ M Squadrons will be around till the MKI induction is complete. and this can take anywhere between 5 to 10 years.So the MOFTU will be around for some time. If the intake of the pilots reduce – The squadrons themselves can directly take on the cadets for OCU trg.
Usage of MIG29s and Mirage 2000 two seaters for OCU trg would depend on cost and availability.
In the future I am guessing that the training phase might look like this
Stg 1 – Basic HPT32 (replaced by a proposed Tucano Lookalike?)
Stg 2 – HJT16 to be replaced by the HJT36 (IJT)
(Trifurication – Cadets go to fighter, transport and helis – Fighter continue below)
Stg 2A (and incorporates part of current Stage 3) – Advanced Training on Hawks
Stg 3A – MOFTU /OCU MiG-21Us Advanced Training before posting to Operational Squadrons.
Ofcourse it all depends on what kind of curriculm is given in Stage 2A – we will know only when the Hawk is inducted.
Jagan, with pilot training commencing in UK what is the future of MOFTU? has it been totally disbanded now ?
The MOFTU has not been disbanded and I dont think it will be disbanded in the near future either. It still has a relevant role – in converting pilots to faster attack aircraft. The Hawks IMO will replace the Iskras and the Kiran Mk IIs at the Stage IIa Level.
The IAF training is as follows
Stage 1 – Basic Training in HPT32s
Stage II – Advanced Training in HJT-16s
Stage IIa – Advaned Training (formation flying, fighter maneuvering, some air to ground ) in Iskras and HJT16 Mk IIs
Stage III – MiG Conversion.
I think the Hawks will take some portions of the curriculum from the Stage III and almost the entire curriculum of Stage IIa.
Stage III (MOFTU, OCU etc ) will be around for some time to come – Once the FLs are phased out, we will induct the Bis to do the training regimen.
Melvyn,
thanks for the explanations.
My reasoning that a Digitised file is a copyrighted work is derived from observing the Australian War Memorial Collection’s copyright policy. They have a number of wonderful images online and all are watermarked and copyrighted – I assume they claim copyrights of the scanned reproduction that is shown on the webpage and not copyrights of the actual photographs. The charges are hefty too….
-Jagan
That Maruts the first prototype (BR462) good one .
A squadron establishment need not be 18ac (16+2) most of the times its just 16 ac (incl the two seaters) and in some cases just 10 (remember No.20 Sqn, or the Bison Squadron when new, or the Heli sqns). So with 56 Mirages we can have three squadrons 48ac + 8 ac in repair/maint/reserves.
An alternative way of looking at the copyright law is that he can claim the copyright for the Digital Reproduction – having taken the effort to scan and resize it – The digital file becomes his creation and thus his copyright.
Others are free to use ithe picture as long as they get thier own scanner and photo and scan it using thier own time 😀
Harry, cool picture – where did you get it from? can it be bigger?
Isn’t the one with the long rocket rails a Tempest? (with fuselage code H and number 26 visible).
The other must be the one carrying bombs and taxying in the slushy airfield, thats a Tempest too I think
Please ask your CAD/CAM man for a quote on a complete set of forged machinings for a Mk IX engine bearer with supporting paperwork. Sit down before you open the envelope.
After you recover from the shock, please post the details to me, I am sure I can get them done here in India for half the price 😀 if not less
Seriously, I think some of the machining work can be carried out in these spots for some real bargains. But then someone will have to come all the way from UK/US to oversee the work and the costs will even out.
Adrian, Also consult the RAF Commands board (http://www.rafcommands.com) which has its fair share of NA/PRO Researchers who can give good tips on which files to look.
Mark12
How many such survivor relics are there worldwide – which are just something more than the engine and the cockpit (maybe a little bit of wings too) and are not yet restored?
What actually happened? can someone tell me the story ?
Giving a whole new meaning to “Dont beat around the bush” 😀
ah yes, Rakesh already has a picture of 561 in the relevant page on BR.
Just noticed the Indian Navy Ka-31 AEW example IN-561 in two of the pictures used on the brochure above