Hmmm, 😮
Now that is definately one that has no margin for error.
This would definately be a questionable display.
Indeed it looks spectacular, but I could not help think that it is not a sustainable display act? :confused:
Least of all the stresses that are put on the aeroplane 🙁

What does everyone think? :dev2:

I only hope that those that are ‘so desperate’ to find out and speculate what, where, when, who, how, so quickly, like it’ll make any difference, are equally as quick to pass on any information they have on anything they are connected with, even if it does not show them in a good light, so that everyone else on here that is so desprerate to speculate on rumours and info etc etc can do so. (provided of course they are actually active in the aviation show world and are not what I have see described as an armchair aviator.)
I cannot get my head around why some of the posters on here are so quick to fire off all sorts of nonsense, rumours and general gerrymandering and what I would call, uncalled for speculation, rather than just wait for the facts to come out as and when they do, if they exist, particularly when it’s not necessarily good news.
It certainly has a bearing on what I would, or probably would not post, particularly on here, if I hear of something that fits any of the above, because it would just be feeding the very thing which I feel gets way out of hand sometimes and invariably seems to end up in disagreement.

As you say a good bit of news for a change.
I have been to Banff about 4 years ago and was very disheartened to see the usual wind turbines go kart track etc etc on a fantastically historic airfield.
I didn’t have time to go looking at the tower it self, although I could see it.
I sincerely hope that they get somewhere with this and wish them the best.

The memorial on the A98 is very good.

Luckily due to a parachute and the fact that the pilot was able to gain control of the Skyraider we didnt have fatalities -however no kind of procedures could regulate for that event.

You are right, we were lucky that there was no fatal outcome to the incident you refer to, but I think that what pagen is trying to say is that because certain rules and regulations are put in place before anybody is alowed to perform at an airshow and should an incident occur, there is a good chance that those involved in the incident will be kept to a minimum.
This is as opposed to letting performers perform how ever they like which is likely to be more risky with a greater chance of something untowards happening and therefore potentially involve more people.

A good example would be that pilots know they cannot infringe the crowd line rule for example, for if they do they will potentially be called down immediately and may even be subject to further measures, so they ensure they do not breach the line and certainly not with deliberate intent.
Now if that rule was not in force and pilots were to be allowed to do just what they want, I believe there is a very good chance that riskier moves would ensue which would also put the public at greater risk more frequently, where if an incident were to ensue, would also more likely involve a greater number of people.

They may not be perfect, but I certainly believe that good appropriate rules work and I believe our records demonstrate this fact.

I do sometimes find myself a little torn between watching something flying impressively but safely and watching something that is fitting the stupid/too risky (& therefore potentially more risky) title, but is extremely impressive and spectaculor to watch.

For a lesser example, if the vulcan dispays and doesn’t carry out a steep climb and over vertical wing over, I am somewhat disappointed, but it’s less risky.
But, if it carry’s out a very steep climb and a overtical wing over as I want it to do, I am satisfied, but it’s more risky

It also begs me to ask a question, when was the last time an airshow spectator (who was in a designated spectators area), suffer an injury or even worse?

Anna – 2 blue stars
Vicky – 1 blue star with merits

:D:D

The sea vixen is a stunning aircraft.
We are so lucky to have such aircraft still flying in 2011 😀

Remind me again why air shows and low-altitude stunting are a good idea”?

Over and above what other safer pastime?

Music festivals – 12 people unfortunately killed and I believe a couple of hundred injured at two very recent events in the US & Belgium (and these weren’t even the exhibitors).

Formula 1, World rally cross, Nascar, etc where again the greats have also suffered an unfortunate end as well as some of the spectators.

Football – where in modern times we have seen some 200 people leave us and again none of the participants were on the recieving end.

Olympics – even here there have been participant fatalaties.

Horse riding and cross country eventing etc, where many suffer the auspices of the grim reaper whilst enjoying what they do.

We would also appear to have seen the demise of at least four of our fellow public doing something out of necessity for protection, whilst some other idiots decided that these peoples course for life was to be changed based on what they saw was just a smashing, thieving, looting and generally destructive good time.

I know i’m only skimming the surface of a scratch itself, but the airshow, recreational aviation world has very few numbers relative to a great many other activities.

Your questioning of airshows etc and particularly when there are families that are grieving is ‘questionable’ in itself.
If airshows didn’t exist, where would your so-called aviation interest be? Differnt manufacturers of cotton wool perhaps, with different colours and densities and softness……….nice!
I ask this because for the majority of the operators, they would not be able to afford to run them if it were not for some of the money that they do get from the airshows that people want to watch because they enjoy them?

Your question would therefore imply that we should deny people the pleasure of seeing these fine ‘living, breathing and moving’ craft, ensuring that younger generations can only see them sat on the ground, to wonder what they actually sounded and flew like.

I understand that the party line is that “thousands of people get excited by aviation” when they come to the shows.

WTF is this? 😮
What ‘party line’? In your own head maybe?:confused:
People put on airshows because they know other people want to watch them, just like all other events that go on around the world every day

But where is the line about “millions of televiewers and newspaper readers are horrified by ‘little airplanes’ when they see the inevitable accidents broadcast or on the front page”?

What utter tosh! :mad::mad:
Did that vacuous golfing non-entity while he was on the up, think of the same spread accross all media headlines, when he decided to dip his wick elsewhere? :diablo: No of course he didn’t because he was being feted everywhere for hitting a small ball around a bit of grass and getting paid an abhorent mint for it in the process and the media were part of it,:mad:

People are far too into the media when it serves their thirst for all sensationalist news, but don’t consider it when the boot’s maybe on the other foot.
The only way around that is to do nothing with your life and talk to nobody about anything, that way no-one will know anything………yeah like that’s gonna happen. :dev2:

Nice set, Sea Vixen gets my vote too.

Is it me or is the sea vixen really growing on me? :confused: