:)May a good ,proper serious work come to fruition 🙂

I’ll second that so let’s hope so trumper.;)

Bomberboy

Diamond ones with bracelet to match and a long round the world cruise so he can break the news gently.

There’s every chance that he’s now already blown the cash, so she could be right outta luck!!!:diablo:

Bomberboy

FN, I am aware at other incidents, that once it is ascertained by the firefighters that no life is under threat, there is indeed less emphasis on protecting items of property per-se and whilst this is unfortunate, I agree wholeheartedly with the ethos of letting something burn out, so long as a greater threat is not created by not attempting to extinguish the fire, and/or it is possible to have a fairly good realistic safe chance of achieving reduced loss of property by extinguishing the fire.

We should indeed not expect for someone to put greater risk on their own life in difficult or impossible circumstances, just so as to save some of ones personal property and where further life is not at risk.

Bomberboy

Don’t know how much is left to see further up North at Ezell, and if you’re feeling really adventurous, you could take the long-ish drive up to Banff.
Mind you you will see some p*****g wind turbines and a go kart track there as well.
IIRC, the tower is still extant and there is a nice memorial on the main road headed towards Inverness.

Bomberboy

A post in another thread has reminded me that next year marks the centenary of Sopwith’s factory, which evolved into Hawker where it remained until 20 years ago.

I remember at being fortunate to being shown around the factory in about 86 or 87 when GR’s and AV8’s were being made side by side.
Unfortunately I was not permitted to take any photos, bah spoilsports!

Bomberboy

Oh no, not two vintage aircraft doing a pairs display….

😉

Now now, you are getting beside yourself you naughty boy.:diablo:

Bomberboy

Bomberboy, just like every other user of this forum i do not have to justify myself to anyone thank you.! But just for you this is my position;

WVF, I thank you for your posting even though as you say you do not have to justify yourself to anybody and I didn’t ask for it.
I hope you appreciate it was borne from an original comment from Blue Max’s earlier post, not mine, but which you gave the appearance of justifying certain actions for another reason.
You have now clarified certain positions which I agree, which as you say, you were perfectly within your right to be.

I was born in and live in Duxford. On application i am issued with a Neighbours of Duxford card that is supplied by the IWM to local residents, and can be used to gain entry to the airfield at anytime during normal opening hours except during airshows or special events. A privelage, yes most definately… freeloading, i would argue most definately not.

You are now the envy of many!!!!

Its a public road nearly one mile from the runway, and there is no reason whatsoever that anyone should feel in danger from low flying aircraft whilst walking along that road. Again if you think thats freeloading or needs justifying then sorry i strongly disagree.

You are absolutely correct, but I would point out that during an airshow that position could become a risk as from what i’ve seen, there are a great many of the participants that naturally overfly the particular part of the road you mention whist they are conducting ‘figure of 8’ manouevers.

I was then critizised for my positioning during the two incidents i mentioned. One of which my position was rather foolish, but the other in my opinion totally acceptable.

I think we have covered this now.

If you really want to vent your anger at those endangering aircrew or themselves.

Anger is probably a little strong a word to use, but I do believe I was not the only one and I certainly was not the first to post in this thread.

then maybe you need to start with the individuals who have now decided to position themselves in the field right beside the runway.. utter madness!.

At last someone else who agree’s with me proper. That does drive me a bit up the proverbial pole with the safety aspect first and then the apparent deliberate avoidance of paying to get in which in no way contributes to the operation and upkeep of the great many, of the very subject matter we are discussing. A poor show on their part, I think most would agree.

We all have different views on this subject, and whilst i agree rules and regulations have been tightened up quite considerably over the years, aircraft are STILL allowed to fly directly towards the crowd display centre whilst coming in from the direction of Barkers farm at Dx. Again in my opinion that is not a necessary part of any display. And what i was highlighting was that the biggest killers at airshows worldwide, and not just in Britain, is display aircraft been flown directly towards the crowd. Its bad enough as a singleton, but as a tight formation.. to me thats only asking for trouble, and as per usual nothing will be done to stop it until it all goes horribly wrong, but sadly for some that will be too late

I understand what you say, but apart from the two ‘old’ examples you gave where people were unfortunately lost, I am trying hard to think (difficult with the amount of grey matter I have), of another similar incident where people lost their lives because aircraft flying from the front directly towards the crowd line which you state “were the biggest killers at airshows” and which I obviously have a mental blank for at the moment?

All the above is my opinion, and i don’t expect anyone else to agree.

Why would you say that? I agree with most of the points you comment on, just not all of them, but as you say you are entitled to have your own opinion, as we all are.
If there was limited or no variety (opinions included) what a boring world this could be.

Bomberboy

Purely my opinion old chap.

Exactly, I couldn’t agree more.
And with that lead in I have to say I love it…….and that’s purely my opinion!!!

If I were a betting man, i’d lay money on it, (and no i’m not loaded), that for most people, seeing an amazing formation like that, if you could put eye spot monitors on what people are actually looking at, with the striking scheme that Miss D is in, I am sure the bulk of peoples focus will be on Miss D.
It is a matter of fact that peoples attention will always be drawn to striking things, they just cannot help it, it’s part of human nature.

Great pictures by the way!!

Bomberboy