Seems good money to me.

Fortuitously, I already have a copy of this.

Bomberboy

How many of you that have posted have children? How many have more than one, or even two? Where are they going to live? The simple fact is we all have too many offspring,

That’s perculiar!!!!
Point #1
I’m sure that this ‘wonderful’ administration we are currently saddled with keep telling us that this country is at risk because we are becoming an older aged population and that there will not be enough young people earning enough money for the country to keep paying for the older generations etc etc?
Please correct me if I am wrong!!!!!!!

this is a small country,

Excellent!!!!! You have managed to observe a very good point there.
Point #2
This is critical as we just do not have enough space and yet again this ‘wonderful’ administration we are currently saddled with don’t even want to put a cap on the population rise.

forget all that right wing stuff about too many immigrants, they form only a part of the population..

So easily and simplistically covered.
Point #3
We unfortunately have too many people from all over the world coming to live here on these very small islands (see point #2)
So take Point #3 minus the misguided and incorrect claim you make in Point #1 means a constant increase in population with a resultant Point #4 in a land pressed for space in Point #2.

The fact that we are a modern, successful first world country means we breed like rabbits and the rabbit cubs survive. They need housing.

Point #4 Indeed they do need housing but the rest of this sentence is nothing more than a load of piffle!
Africa is generally considered to be a third world country, but yet they seem to sucessfully erm……………..”breed like rabbitts” and even with the poorer survival rate still means they have way way more than they can cope with! Just imagine if the survival rate was better?

If you live next to an airfield and moan then I have no sympathy
If you have more than two children and moan about housing estates I have no sympathy either.

I don’t and I don’t and so quite selfishly I can say Neither do I!

what? Me?
No, made the concsious decision not to have any as there were enough in the world
Never regretted itt

Your choice and sadly a missed opportunity to enjoy creating and helping grow the pilots and engineers of the future!!!!

I sincerely hope this development gets scrapped.
On the other hand, one has to grant Grovesnor Developments persistance with all the other reasons and excuses that they have had their previous applications turned down on, where they then pick themselves up again and dream up another reason to justify building something on this plot of land, whatever it may be.
There is barely any mention of the airfield in any of the official planning application documentation and so anybody reading it without the actual knowledge of the area could be forgiven for not being aware of the airfields existence.
There is even an element relating to nearby historic significance and again the airfield get no mention, yet historicly significant it is!!!!

Bomberboy

This thread is stunning!!!!!!!
Really informative…………..NOT!!!!

Clearly some people still think they are in the playground na na ne na na!!!!!!
Others read what everybody else writes and then throw in a simple one liner type of question which really contributes to any discussion…….not!!!!
They don’t contribute to the debate, they just question those that do (aka Peter G).

I try to take some interest in what I read as I know nothing, but when people are keener to throw mud, name call or stick their tongues out (aka dionis) at those who are at least attempting to debate sensibly (aka Jonesey), then I learn nothing and lose interest, which is not what I want to do.

So come on guys or gals (you never can tell) !!!!!!!!

Bomberboy

One of the reasons that news like this has stopped filtering down to the forums is that as soon as it pops up, we get a host of people with no knowledge of the problem or the industry putting their oar in, and telling them where they went wrong.

If this forum is to continue as a good source of information in the future, we must embrace the operators, and be sympathetic to their problems.

Unless you are posting with specific knowledge of the problem, please be somewhat circumspect, and avoid posting opinion based on little or no knowledge of the issues.
Bruce

Wot he said.

I too saw the trail from the No1 engine, but it was black smoke which with my considerable knowledge and experience with internal combustion engines meant a fuel problem rather than an oil problem ie; the engine was running too rich.

Springbok, you mentioned about how the complex Vulcan is flying but how a ‘mere simple, basic technology’ B-17 was not, so please let me take you back to last year, the Vulcans’ first.
Did they or did they not have to ground the bomber temporarily at Brize I think it was, to ahem, change an engine because one was making metal?
In your infinate wisdom and clearly expert knowledge that you are keen to share with us, on the basis that they had spent millions on the aircraft, with a full time engineering crew behind it how would this have been possible and what would you have prescribed for them as the solution?

By good fortune, the Vulcan had not one, but four zero timed engines in store which has meant their flying programme of X years has now effectively been cut, but meant that they had the spares readily available for use.

Things happen regardless sometimes of how much and how long something is attended to, so cut some slack on the B-17 team then please, or alternativey, come up with the goods so that we can all praise you for your generosity.

Bomberboy

It could carry 10,000lb of bombs – but not a 10,000lb bomb.

Max load was 13,000lb (over short ranges, seldom carried).

‘Norm’ was 4 X 2,000lb or 8 X 1,000lb or, occasionally 1 X 4,000lb HC + 6 500lb GP bombs

Ken

Thanks for that FM, but as I read it the statement was made by Galdri that the Halifax could not carry more than 10,000lbs of bombs not that it could not carry a 10,000lb bomb, which of course we sort of all had an inkling of anyway.
This as I understood it with my limited knowledge seemed to be an incorrect statement which you have thankfully confirmed to me was indeed incorrect, TA.

Bomberboy

No we didn’t fly today still awaiting some parts from the US. Plan now is for the 12th or 13th. Still hopeful will be ready for Duxford on the 17th.

That would be just excellent!!
I hope it all goes well.
I have every confidence that it will, especially with all the effort the engineers have obviously had to put into her to get her back in the air.

Bomberboy

Man, am I enjoying this thread. 😀
For a change, people are making a lot of sense in this only slightly majority conclusion.;)
Anyway, we shouldn’t knock the Fins because if it wasn’t for them, then………………

Bomberboy