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  • in reply to: Liberty Belle B-17G (SN 44-85734) #1268390
    Bomberboy
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    Of Course, there’s always a B-17 that already lives here, that always needs constant donations either small or large just to keep her going.

    Anyway, a little bird told me last year that the french may stop flying Pink Lady.
    You know the old spiralling insurance costs and hangerage issues etc.
    Naturally I’d like this not to be the case!!!!!!

    Of course in the last 20 years, this trek has been made by three B-17s.
    Thunderbird on a one way trip, Dave Tallichet’s 17 and the late Bob Richardsons 17 that’s now with Boeing I believe.
    It was also made by LB 30 Diamond Lil.

    Prior to this the now Kermit weeks B 24 and Duxfords B 29 both made one way journeys accross the pond.

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Belfast Truss Hangers #1296388
    Bomberboy
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    If memory serves me right, but doesn’t Henlow have Belfast truss hangars?
    Or am I loosing the plot???

    My wife did her dissertation on Belfast truss hangars for her building surveyors degree and we had a good look around Bracebridge Heath, especially the rare if not unique triple span element.
    I can assure you DX were offered the necessary original materials, FREE OF CHARGE, particularly from Bracebridge Heath in order for them to re-build a hangar on the site of the single span base………………………………..
    they were not remotely interested!!!!
    Too much aggro they said!!!

    Don’t forget also that apart from the main hangars that were constructed using wooden supports and are a smaller span than say the DX ones, they also had the small single truss hangar that was connected to the old Grahaeme White hangar that was moved a few years ago.

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: CVF News #2081003
    Bomberboy
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    Last minute posturing. I have been involved in negotiating reasonably large contracts with the UK government and know that the gamesmanship goes right up to the last minute. It seems that now that industry has accepted the incentive scheme the difference has come down to just £100M (£3.6 v £3.8 billion) little more than the cost of one Typhoon.

    I really can’t see the MoD or industry letting the whole deal go over what is in reality such a small sum of money.

    With an profit sharing incentive scheem industry will try an talk up the initial cost stimates as much as possible. That leaves as much “saving” as possible for indstry to share as outright profit.

    Incentivisation or ‘pain – gain’ schemes involving government bodies happens all the time.
    The company I work for has contracts with them for millions of pounds per contract so it’s nothing new.
    As Far says they talk up the target cost in the first place as far as they can go, so that there is a bigger ‘risk pot’ available should it be required or they share in the spoils if the project is actually delivered under target.

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Coastal Command photos sought #1254512
    Bomberboy
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    My father served in 53 sqdn then equipped with Liberators whilst at St Eval and I am in the RAF St Eval Coastal Command Association 1939 – 1959 where I may be able to help.
    However and probably of better help would be the 53 sqdn Air Brittain publication written by Jock Manson which may be able to help.
    I know it has a section covering when 53 had Hudsons.

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Blitz of Malta 42/43 reading? #1254516
    Bomberboy
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    If I may be permitted to make a recommendation to read Pedestal by Peter C Smith if memory serves me right.
    Excellent read on the convoy that was in the end, the turning point for Malta.
    It details the build up to the massive convoy that started with three carriers before the Eagle was sunk along with the Battleships Nelson & Rodney and the many costly engagements along the way.
    It also describes the sucessful heroic efforts required to get the tanker Ohio into Grand Harbour with the aid of a brace of destoryers being used so that she did not succumb to her wounds.

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: RAF Binbrook as it was and in 2006 #1284394
    Bomberboy
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    Sorry guys, Greasy errk here at last glad Im not on QRA 🙂 after I spoke to you last night Milt my PC died, literally in smoke, I did go down in flames old boy, Im using the work PC today, keep it to yourselves 😉

    Anyway this is what Milt said about the place now:
    A few of us visited Charles at Binbrook last week. Not much left. C hangars and LTF main hangar are still there, as well as main gate and quarters. Bomb site is still there, and there is a chunk of probably Runway 21 threshold left and thats it. Difficult to tell which runway is which since its hard to get a handle exactly where you are, its such a mess of mounds, concrete wire and soil. The Western QRA sheds look to be intact, and the dispersal pan in front of where the tower was is untouched.

    Except that it is full of engines and various car panels etc!

    Here we go

    http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/320psi/21threshold.jpg

    Andy B[/QUOTE]

    Taken looking in a northwesterly sort of direction I believe, I am very familiar with the far right hand tree in the distance.

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Buried Lancasters.(2004 thread) #1305920
    Bomberboy
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    The point I was trying to make is that they have a habit of burying aircraft if not needed or unable to move them on. Getting rid of an aircraft on an airfield which couldn’t be sold for scap or got rid of what’s stopping them from digging a hole and burying it. I think it’s highly unlikely that they would have buried an entire and intact lanc but piles of bits are quite conceivable. If the MU has a digger and a field where they have to get rid of it I would suggest that the digger would have been used.

    Ali

    Which takes us right back to the start!
    Omit supposition and guesswork.

    SHOW US?

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Buried Lancasters.(2004 thread) #1305936
    Bomberboy
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    During my quest to find downed aircraft in Lochs in Scotland I read the ORBs for 63 and 56MU and there is the description of a recovery operation on one of the islands. A DC3 went in on the island there is a very detailed description of how they dug the hole for the fuselage and buried it. This shows that they did have the habit of burying aircraft. They got a digger from one of the farmers on the island and dug a hole and pushed it in after getting all the good bits off.

    63 MU ORBs are an interesting read… I even found out how many doses of the clap everyone had. None amongst the WAAF I might add. 😀

    Ali

    I have no doubt in what you have posted but the example seems to be an unusual and perhaps seemingly one off, on an island for a crash site, not just a pile of old scrap on airfield dump.

    Why is it they didn’t do the same thing everytime an aircraft crashed in a remote location such as the peak district crash sites?
    Yes they would salvage some but the rest was left in situ…read the Dark Peak Wrecks books for the dozens of examples.

    I would GUESS that in most cases, if an aircraft was wrecked at an airfield, if not straight away, they either used it as a hanger queen and then sent them to a proper scrappies afterwards.
    For example Pulham St Mary in Norfolk was a huge aircraft scrapyard intended exactly for this purpose.
    It just does not makes sense to have proper facilities put into place, to deal with such things and then not use them.
    I would also guess that crashes that happened away from the airfields which did not ‘go in’, also found themselves in the same place.

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Incident at duxford – crew safe #1306286
    Bomberboy
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    Let’s all be greatful that the most important part of this aircraft, the crew, seem to be safe then.

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Buried Lancasters.(2004 thread) #1306333
    Bomberboy
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    Bomberboy,

    You haven’t read enough threads on this board.

    The burial of scrap parts on or adjacent to wartime aerodromes is a matter of fact..

    I am aware of that, but what I was trying to say was that as far as I am aware, there has never been a find of any substantial quantity found on any airfield.
    I am more than happy to be proven wrong, but it’s never happened yet!
    There are many stories abound, even on this thread, but it all seems to be heresay and supposition and whenevr there is a “definite case” of stuff being buried in the ground, the story behind it semms to do the same and go to ground, without any further knowledge.
    This is just about the very reason this thread is here now is it not

    I doubt whether every ‘drome has such buried treasure but the possibility that towisuk is on to something at Hemswell is tantalisingly real.

    I cannot comment on this individual possibility.
    But I can ask, how long has this been known about and if it’s quite a while, why has it not already been dug up yet, like so many wrecks that have gone before.
    If it’s not been known long then how come?
    Why would somebody start telling anyone about it now and not umpteen years ago.

    Like some others have said, there are things that just don’t add up!

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Buried Lancasters.(2004 thread) #1306489
    Bomberboy
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    If i’d had a pound for every time I’d heard this story at just about every airfield i’ve been to……..I’d have a fat wallett.
    Strangely though, the story is told more where the airfield is disused.
    Ironically though, I’ve never yet seen the evidence, that when an airfield was abandoned, they buried all their scrap in some huge burial pit………………..
    with one exception………………..Duxford!
    But it wasn’t in wartime!

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Merlins Over Malta DVD #1307753
    Bomberboy
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    It’s a very good watch!
    I thoroughly enjoyed it!
    The content is very nicely balanced and interlaced between the history side of things and the epic event itself.

    Oh how I remember it well!
    It seems hardly a few months ago, not a year!

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: 206 Sqdn RAF B-17 (Azores) piccys #1322869
    Bomberboy
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    Many thanks for the info posted

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Vulcan 607 – An awesome book! #1284365
    Bomberboy
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    My aunt edited the book, so am looking to meeting up with her to get my signed copy

    A chap I’ve been working closely with over the last year or so told me his dad Dick Russell was part of this crew.
    He said something about that at one point, one of the Victor tankers broke off it’s refuelling probe?

    Bomberboy

    in reply to: Very Sad News!!! #1300924
    Bomberboy
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    A terrible and premature loss, particularly to his family.
    Had many conversations with Paul but not in the last few years.

    Bomberboy

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