It was practice for some bloody great flypast deal in London. The 3 VC10’s came over on 2 different days & then there was a another flypast practice with the VC10’s, some Canberras & C130’s (I think that was the line up).
On the day of the big show in London some Tornado’s buzzed the town center on the way home, 4 of em in a diamond IIRC.
It may have been ’90 or ’91….?
My guess is it was the practice for the BoB 50th anniversary in 90 over Traf square and along the Mall.
There were a lot of RAF aircraft involved in that flypast.
Bomberboy
Stormin’ and me will be there from Friday come and see us on the BBMF trailer
Not both you and the Pringlemeister?
Oh lordy!
See you there
Bomberboy
Bomberboy what do you do?
James
Daydream!
Bomberboy
Excuse me for this private message but I don’t succeed in sending e-mail directly.
Hello B-17man,
I am a warbirds enthusiast and a historical amateur researcher.
I write from Italy. Excuse me for my poor english; I hope it is comprehensible.Some time ago I found a part belonged to a B-24 D shooted down in northern Italy on 28 December 1943.
The item is a metallic cilinder ( about 10cm / 4inch long) and on its surface some strange geometrical shapes are engraved.
I enclose a picture (4 views) of the object and a drawing of its development.When I read the following extract about the “profile cut-off gunfire interrupter” of a top turret, I thought that it is the main component of the some device.
From “British Aircraft Armament – Volume 1” by R. Wallace Clarke, pagg. 170-171:
“The profile interrupter protected the airframe. It consisted of a cam enclosed in a protective covering, which was turned by a pinion meshing with the turret ring gear. As the turret revolved the cam turned at the same rate. On the cam, an exact miniature of the portions of the airframe were engraved. Fitted to the cam cover was a switch box containing three micro switches, and the contact was opened when a micro switch arm struck the engraved part of the cam. This broke the gun firing circuit and automatically stopped the guns firing.”
Can you confirm my hypothesis?
Every further information and/or picture about this device is welcome!Many thanks.
Best regards
Mauro
Mauro,
Excuse my interdiction here, I know B-17 man very well and will likely see hom tomorrow evening.
Looking at the images you have compiled almost certainly agrees with the hypothesis you are putting forward.
The profilles look correct for the B-24 and if you notice, there are two level which one can only deduce to take into the account that the top turret has two guns.
Regards
Bomberboy
PS your English is very good and far outstrips my knowledge of Italian which is Zilcho.
Bomberboy
Sticky like me works on BBMF fulltime and is in the RAF,
I thought he had intended to leave the service.
Gerbs has not been part of the groundcrew for quite a few years.
I am aware of that, but he’s still involved isn’t he?
I had a ride in your crew bus on Sunday?
I thought my car was untidy :o)
Bomberboy
1. The Lanc is not being grounded in the near future she has a long life ahead at least 20 yrs
Peoples perception eh!
Unfortunately it happens all the time, believe me I know, I’m asked all the time as well!
2. The aircrew/ groundcrew are in the RAF, but only the boss Sqn Ldr Pinner and the groundcrew work at BBMF on a fulltime basis.
What about Sticky and Gerbs then?
4. The guys did a great job fixing the Lanc so it could display the next day and many of the comments posted here about this have been greatly appreciated.
Been there and done that as well!
Your outfit has top boys…….oh and girls as well where appropriate.
5. It was one of the new bags that burst, not an original, the Lancs brakes are like the Spitfire they are pneumatic.
So have you used another newbie or gone back to an original?
It’s more visible when bags used are hydraulic.
6. And finally yes I work on the flight and have been there for 13yrs
13 years is that all!!!!
You’ve a long way to go to catch me up then!
For some reason I had it in my head you’d been with them longer.
Perception again then mixed in with a bit of historic Black? aah!
Anyway I know you and you know me, so you know where I’m coming from!
Bomberboy
The pyros were originally planned as part of an ‘air power’ demonstration by combined military services using fixed and rotary wing craft. It was scrubbed by the MoD at the 11th hour. 😡
Rather than waste the stuff it was decided to let them off during the B17 and P51 acts. 😀
…………and didn’t they look fine!
Nice timely work the BBMF team fixing those bags.
BBMF, did you fit one of the new ones in the end, or did you use an original?
Bomberboy
Nice Pictures!
What about the people on the top of Cavehill that would have been ‘above’ the height of the airplane, are any of them on this forum?
Bomberboy
I beleive I saw the Wasp turn up at DX on Sunday.
Bomberboy
so rushed into the room in time to see my favourite aircraft crash horrifically
Even though I do what I do, I would have given my hypothectical right arm to have had a ride in her.
A bad, bad day.
Moggy
dunno about a day, It was a bad bad month.
Bomberboy
Not having visited North Weald for a while, I was wondering whether the two DC-4s (one a C-54) at North Weald are showing any signs of movement or are they destined to rot away there? Such a fate would be a great pity, as they arrived having flown the Atlantic, and so presumably were in reasonable shape at that stage.
Personally I blame the film company!
The engines did used to get run periodically, but I don’t think that has happened for a good couple of years now!
Bomberboy
Looks like someone really did their homework on getting the scheme as authentic as possible 😉
It’s called Money!
If you’re paying a lot of spondooliks for something, then there really should’nt be any question of it being anything else other than correct now should there?
Bomberboy
I want to know the size of bomber of lancaster and superfortress? I’ve been suspecting why superfortress much bigger than lancaster but only carried bombers same as lancaster?
Although they are bombers, they are very different aircraft.
The Lanc could, as we all know carry the amazing 22,000lb Grand Slam Earthquake Bomb whereas the highest bomb load I have seen written about in the B-29 is 20,000lb.
The bombbay was a single bay with two pairs of bomb doors forward & aft
The B29 operated at a higher altitude than the Lanc and used a pressureised airframe.
With the exception of the tail gunner, the gun barbettes were controlled by an automatic system where a gunner would automatically ‘hail’ a barbette which depended where the position of his target was.
The B29 was a typical yank bomber with gunners everywhere, rather than just loading up more bombs.
Bomberboy
Olympus – The website gives £350,000 needed by March this year. I don’t know how that affects her rebuild or ‘first’ flight date.
This figure hasn’t changed in at least a year.
I went to an engineering event probably over a year ago now and the chap Pleming, even then said thay they need some £350k in funding.
That was the last time I heard this figure mentioned, but certainly wasn’t the first!
Somethings not right there, if the figure hasn’t changed in that period of time, what will it all mean?
Has the funding stalled?
If it has and they don’t get the cash, what then?
Bomberboy
Sorry if I am not diverting my attention to someone who doesn’t care a hoot about Concorde.
Its blatently obvious that as SCG want to return this to a heritage flight that the money will come from the Heritage and National Lottery Grants.
Also – I don’t do conquests where people like to have competitions over knowing more than the other. Very immature and sad!
Mr Speedbird sir (please excuse me here for assuming that you are a geezer),
You are without doubt a person who is displaying the classic ‘i’ve been rumbled as a complete ******’, by lots of other people and are hiding from answering correctly, logically and most of all truthfully answers that are based on actual fact not ‘pie in the sky’ dreaming!
I’m sorry if this seems a ittle harsh, but i’m afraid this individual and possibly the group of merry individuals that he calls the SCG or should that now read CHF – Concorde(less) Heritage Flight, need to have something that is a bit more searching than a reality check, that is supplemented by the largest enema one could possibly administer without harm to life!
My suggestion here is that perhaps it could be organised to strap a few rocket motors to the airframe (once you have selected one and then got the owners consent to do so, got the engineering support, design authority and CAA approvals for them and then got somebody to actually fit them), we could then line you up on the runway of your choice and send you on an everlasting flight, right out into outer space never to return.
Now if you think this all sounds a bit far fetched, then lets return further up this posting right to the point where you first posted!
I’ve seen some beauvine scathology posted on this forum before, but Mr speedbird sir………….you put total bullsh1tters to shame!
Finally and before I get the obligatory ‘I cannot actually answer so I’ll chuck in my old favourite get out clause’, ‘you are NOT qualified to make these kind of assumptions’, I’d just like to point out to you that, I doubt you know me either and so therefore you are not qualified to say that I am not qualified to make these kind of assumptions.
This is the kind of thread that should be put into a new forum category of ‘I wish’.