Here’s another question: How will current and future derivatives of active radar guided missiles perform versus current and future LO planes? Basically, how will meteors, aim120d, rvv-sd, pl-15 etc perform against f-22, f-35, j-20 etc.

A decade or two ago publications were usually saying how tracking VLO planes with small wavelengths would be terribly inefficient and how even if VLO planes would be detected, they wouldnt be tracked and they surely wouldnt be able to be fired upon as there’d be no way to target them.

But since then we’ve actually seen not a decline but a proliferation of active radar guidance on missiles. now it’s not just pure bvr class missiles getting ARH, but also shorter ranged, smaller missiles. Also for SAMs, where before command guidance or IR guidance was the main choice, now we have the likes of CAMM, VL mica or VL Iris-T SL, all with ARH guidance.

Would all that point to a certain portions of VLO planes that are very hard to hide in that sub X band spectrum? Stuff like tiny antennas and gaps between control surfaces, doors etc? Stuff that is usually considered too tiny to be picked up by tracking radars in fighters/awacs/land based SAMs (and at the same time too hard to change in shape or coat with RAM due to their design and mission), but is actually just of right size to be picked up by even smaller wavelengths used in missile radars?

Logic would suggest that we would not see such a proliferation of ARH seekers if such method would be useless against VLO planes.

In my opinion ARH missiles will have quite a hard work in modern environment will all different jammers around. At the end new 5th gen fighters will be equipped witj all ESM equipment, including jammers, DIRCM and smaller AAMs to shot down incoming AAMs or SAMs, so at the end PAK FA, Su-35, F-22 and F-35 will fight with each other with gun fire, where agility of fighter will become important (F-35???).

Not all SAMs are getting ARH. Russian SHORADs Pantsir-S1 and Tor-M2 keep radio guidance and medium range Pantsir-SM will also have radio guidance. They also keep IR guidance for VSHORAD and introduce laser guidance with Sosna missile. Russians will use ARH homing for bigger medium and long range missiles, where radar are bigger and more powerful and still combine with other types of guidance for any case. Small ARH missiles are good against civil planes, drones, rockets or third world countries, where is no danger of ECM from the target. In opposite I doubt small ARH missiles will be able to lock on anything in heavy ECM environment.

For 4,8 billion $ Iraq should buy a lot of additional Mi-28NE (50+) with all weapons, trainings, etc and they are no worse than Apaches they will buy for so much money. With money for leasing 6 AH-64D, they could as well buy a squadron of Ka-52, not only lease.

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Don’t underesimate your missiles. Here Tochka-U achieve direct hit on Georgian military police Lada Niva.

Yes Su-30 is a excellent type but how much will 24 air-frames cost plus how much will they cost to run for 30 year remember Argentina has no money and Su-30 burns a lot of fuel

Kfir is old plane using Phantom engine. Where will Argentina find spare parts for them after 10 years? How expensive will they be? What about structure of those planes? How tired materials are? Kfirs for sure see the war in ME and Israelis didn’t spare them.

Venezuelan AF also have behind very strong IADS with S-300V, Buk, Pechora-2M, Tor, etc. They don’t have AWACS, but good IADS could still give to fighters excellent air target delivery.

I think combination of Su-30 and J-10 could work well for Iraq as both types use same engines.

Russia was out in this competition because of some reasons:
– S-300PMU versions are no more in production.
– S-400 will not be available for export for some time
– Russia is not willing to give technology transfer for S-300VM or S-400.

S-300VM is different than Greek S-300PMU-1 and more capable.

I’m really more surprised, that Turkey didn’t choose Patriot or SAMP/T.