So the conclusion of this thread is:
F-35 = unvisible = unbeatable = any aoircraft made in America :diablo:

The newest one I found was here
and here by searching google

The F-35 is a joke as a fighter. Its range is short, its payload is small, it can´t do close air support and as a heavy, single-engine, it will
have trouble dog fighting. … … …
Comment: Anyone who know…give us reader in this forum an exact cost for one F-22A please……please be serious!

Aahh my dear, no one said F-35 is an air-superior or air-dominance or counter-air fighter, it’s just an attacker, the JSF just like peronomasia:diablo: 😀

A more interesting point will be could any missiles loaded under wing of Voodoo?
Another interesting question is the turned board seems to be dual-side semi-embeded?

Where the pic source is?
What the missile this is?

Fighters was shot down by guns which is one point, guns was fitted on fighter is totally something else. I think you make a vague notions about what is importance of manuverability for air combat, what is counter-air weapon.
The keypoint is if a bomber could be a perfect fighter, why air force spent billions pounds or dollars to develop a new type? B-1 lancer fitting missile could be an outstanding fighter, to revive TSR2 as a fighter also is a sweet dream for most avation fans, if your opinion is right.

No, not longer true. Fitting the best avionics and state of the art AAMs will transform even a Panavia Tornado IDS into an outstanding fighter-system.

correct a single word out of you to outstanding intercepter-system:diablo:

But was the F-16XL lighter than the Mirage 4000?
If so, does this means that the XL`s Thrust-to-Weight ratio would have been superior than the 19 ton thrust of the Mirage 4000!
Which of the Mirage 4000 and F-16XL had the better range with payload?
The design of the F-16XL`s wing over came some of the traditional shortfalls of the straight delta-wing configuration.
I think the Mirage 4000 if put into production and service would have had greater running costs (i.e. fuel and engine servicing) over its life time, than that of the F-16XL
I think the F-16XL was superior to the Mirage 4000 in many respects.
I think the F-16XL was a missed opportunity

Regards
Pioneer

Yes, F-16XL is lighter than Mirage4000, but increment of thrust that Mirage4000 had far exceed decremnet of weight that F-16XL taken.

If we regard capability of attack-ground, the range is important, but if we care count-air capability, no matter turn-rate, climb rate Mirage4000 will superior than F-16XL of which I’m confident.

The Shape of F-16XL’s wing is great than Mirage4000, but canards will give Mirage4000 more advantages that F-16XL never has, espcially for air-combat and take-off capability.

Concerning the opportunity, whether range or payload, F-15E go ahead of F-16XL far away in the compete for bombing mission whereas, Mirage4000 doubtless will outdo Mirage2000 or F-16XL to both in fighting mission.

For money saving, it has been spent too many in developing progress of F-16XL, how would you know F-16XL will be cheeper than Mirage4000? remenber the latter just based on Mirage 2000 with two engines. 4000 only is a enlarge version of Mirage2000 with double power and advanced FCS.