Of course our views about fighters differ. If we all were thinking the same it would be a boring world. I find it easy to build a super maneuvrable plane than building a state of the art with the latest in avionics. That`s what the Russians did, in my view. Built a plane with very good handling characteristics and now they put the latest in avionics. In my view a fighter plane should be ready for ANYTHING! BVR, WVR…dogfights…anything. Not wishing that the future air battles will limit themselves to BVR or whatever type of battle. That`s why the F-4 didn`t had a cannon installed..because of that wishfull thinking. In my view I find it more logical the approach of the Russians into building tha plane. You may not agree with me…that`s your right….as I don`t agree with you.

My friend, I think you know more clearly than me that doing Cobra action are factually not equal to having capibility of Supermaneuverability. Yes, Su-27 or MiG-29 can do Cobra to a high attack angle but just for seconds. S.H. has already do it keeping more time. For dogfight, we know that it is important to do high attack angle in a longer time than how big the attack angle be done.
On the other hand, that supermaneuverability must rely on TVC that lead aircraft to keeping any direction at any angle.

HaHa….
Who can show me that BlackBurn Buccaneer’s bombbay?

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Don’t get me wrong, the Super Hornet’s low-speed handling characteristics appear to be astounding for a non-TVC aircraft (I’ve personally seen it perform a great display *loaded with AMRAAMs* at le Bourget!), but if you define a Cobra as a pitch-up to in excess of 90° AoA with negligible altitude gain then neither the Tomcat nor the F/A-18 (and MiG-29 without TVC!) seem capable of performing one. Fact………
Just give credit where credit is due 🙂

Fairly enough!
Here is more link,
http://www.txsj.com/www/asp/ypxz/view.asp?lb=1#
in which you can see a tabulation click No.4 you will see a smaller frame jump out.
Now be patient.
1 step enlarge this frame you can see two ads.at below end, just click left one or right one. like this
2 step click 点击下载. like this
3 step After you download completely, when you open it, you must need key word. the keyword is “http://www.txsj.com” like this. ,then you can open it.
I recommend you use WinRAR to open this large file about 345MB. In the video you download, you can watch a F-14 do over 80° attack angle.

nothing happens when you click on it.

Sorry I may not explain clearly, you don’t click that big one above, you should find a small one below. I mean there is big one 《超级大黄蜂》, a yellow one,don’t click it, find a small one there is no titile mark beside 超级大黄蜂. click that white one.

You saw a Super Hornet do a cobra and now you want someone to prove that it did it? :confused:

Yes I have seen it in http://www.airshows.tv/ but I lost it. 🙁

Who can tell me how many pylons under Rafale’s wing with picture proving?

Cry for some pix of Super Tomcat

I’ve heared that Tomcat-21 project plan Super Tomcat would carry over 12 long-range A-A missile, I faintlly remember there is some pix showed mockup carry such many missiles. Who can show me those pix?