Uh-oh… Duck and cover!
British Asian Ukip youth leader quits ‘racist’ and ‘terrifying’ Ukip
Sanya-Jeet Thandi, who defended her support of Ukip on Channel 4 News, says the party is now appealing to ‘stupidity of ignorant anti-immigrant voters for electoral gain’
A British Asian leader of Ukip’s youth wing has quit the party, branding it “racist” and “terrifying”.
Sanya-Jeet Thandi, who had been introduced at Ukip’s party conference as a future leader, said the party has abandoned its core supporters and now appealed to the “stupidity of ignorant anti-immigrant voters for electoral gain”.
Miss Thandi appeared on Channel 4 News this week to defend her membership but has now quit the party and is calling on other Ukip supporters to boycott the upcoming European and local elections.
Miss Thandi, who joined Ukip at 17 as events co-ordinator of the youth wing and spoke at the party conference, said new Ukip posters pointing the finger at immigration “epitomise” what has gone wrong with the party.
Nigel Farage has recently sought to rid Ukip of its racist image by appearing at a rally flanked by 40 ethnic minority supporters. At an event in London, he said: “I don’t care what you call us, but from this moment on, please do not call us a racist party.”
However, the strategy, Ms Thandi said, is not “good enough” to reverse the “form of racist populism” that had developed in the party over the last three years.
Over the last few weeks a string of Ukip candidates have been exposed as harbouring racist views. Andre Lampitt, who featured in the party’s election broadcast, was suspended after saying Ed Miliband was “not a real Brit” and describing Islam as an “evil organisation”.
Another supporter said Lenny Henry, the comedian, should emigrate to a “black country”.
Mr Farage said people with “offensive and idiotic” views had managed to join the party, despite his efforts to vet candidates and imposing a ban on former BNP and National Front members.
Ms Thandi, a privately-educated London School of Economics student born to Punjabi parents, joined Ukip because she said David Cameron was “going soft”.
Three years ago, she agreed with Ukip’s policy on immigration because current policy favoured Eueopeans over other migrants when her grandparents had to “work so hard” to come to England, she said.
Miss Thandi, who grew up in Kent, became one of Mr Farage’s biggest cheerleaders, telling The Times that Mr Farage was “a babe” and describing Godfrey Bloom as “cute and so kind and hilarious, he just says things for the reaction. Lovely guy but a bit misunderstood”.
However, announcing her resignation on The Guardian website Miss Thandi said people with “racist views” had now been slipping through Ukip’s checks “time and time again”.
She wrote: “In order to convince society they are not racist they need to stop giving positions in the party to people with racist views.
“It is not good enough to say that these individuals just slipped through the net, time and time again. Yes, Ukip is still a relatively young party.
“No, that is not an excuse to allow racists to stand for election. Nor is it an excuse to exploit the ignorance in British society and indulge the racist vote by telling them ‘they’ll take your jobs’.”
Obviously Farage will have to give her job to another ‘true believer’ who thinks he is a babe…
Depends on your point of view, does it not? And from that we can work out what yours is…
I always try to work out how I would feel if those accused had practiced their ‘art’ against Britons, and I think it would be fair to say that if the accusations were true then people like you would be up in arms and baying for blood – am I right?
And he might not; please be good enough not to put your spin onto what I’ve said.
Just trying to understand, to make things clear…
I can’t explain this in one-syllable words, so will have to hope that you can keep up.
Oh, you are pushing it. Why not try using three words instead of one to make your missives even more confusing?
I couldn’t care less what that “artist” looks like, wears, or how he behaves, since I gave up on that show years ago; my “gripe” (as you so charmingly put it) is about the deliberate juxtaposition of two words, in his stage name, which together are an obscenity.
Nope. Try making it even harder.
Apparently it has acquired a new meaning (just like “gay” and “the n-word”,) and my “knowledge” comes from being able to read the internet dictionaries. So, you see (though I very much doubt it) the “Austrian bearded woman” (actually a man) is not “my obscenity”; my objection is to his name, AND THAT IS ALL.
Really? I doubt it too.
It must be your dirty mind making it obscene…
I’m having some difficulty understanding your objection to her name.
Well, there’s your problem! She is not a she! Do keep up…;o)
Were you similarly riled when Conchita Martínez was a star on the professional tennis circuit? After all, here’s a lady’s small part juxtaposed with the nose of some male person called Martin.
But were internet dictionaries around at the time? It would make it difficult for Edgar to find it obscene otherwise.
Sounds rude to me.. know what I mean? Nudge.. Nudge..
No, please don’t wind him up like that!
His “forename” has apparently assumed a new meaning (and I needed somebody, on another forum, to tell me this.) Had it stopped there, I wouldn’t have had a problem, but add the “surname,” and the two words take on a whole new connotation.
You needed somebody to point out how obscene his/her name was so that you could come back here to complain about it? Are you going to complain to anyone else, or are we the only ones so blessed…?
Does this work in Austrian, or only English?
Just as I feel sorry for a former work colleague, whose Christian name is Gay, I have sympathy with Miss (unless she is now married) Martinez, who has had her Christian name hijacked (apparently.)
Why, what does it say about you that you always assume everyone’s mind is as filthy as yours…?
Material, which is obviously designed to be offensive, leaves me cold; I was never able to watch Kenny Everett, in front of my mother, because of his “Cupid Stunt” character.
But surely everything she did was always in the best possibly taste…?
It took a while for me to get Sid Snot’s apology for arriving late because his (he’s!) piston broke… Mind you, I was young at the time.
This one won’t be back for more…
A former academy head teacher who charged the school for her birthday party, furniture and taxi rides has been banned for life from teaching.
Joanna Shuter had admitted unacceptable professional conduct while working at Quintin Kynaston School, St John’s Wood, north-west London.
Publishing its judgement, a professional conduct handed Ms Shuter a prohibition order banning her from teaching indefinitely.
She resigned last May after 11 years.
The National College for Teaching and Leadership brought the misconduct hearing after a government report found Ms Shuter, credited with turning the school around, had presided over the misuse of public funds.
Ms Shuter admitted:
- Claiming her 50th birthday party expenditure of £6,292.90 from the academy in 2011
- Claiming £8,269 for an overnight stay at the Grove Hotel in Chandler’s Cross for her leadership team
- Charging the school for furniture worth £1,500 delivered to her home
- Making extensive expenses claims, including mobile phone contracts for herself and her children
- Instructing her PA to book flights and arrange the rental of her holiday home on school time, and organise her consultancy engagements
- Taking on extra paid work for speaking at conferences and consultancy during term time
- Claiming for travel expenses she had already been reimbursed for by someone else
- Claiming £5,855.67 for taxi journeys not made on school business
‘Influential figure’
In its judgement, approved by a senior Department for Education official on behalf on the education secretary, the panel recommended Ms Shuter should not be allowed to apply for the order to be lifted at a later date.As Ms Shuter, who was named Head Teacher of the Year in 2007 and appointed a CBE, had made “extensive expenses claims” for “personal gain”, her conduct should be treated with the “utmost seriousness”, the panel ruled.
It said that given her “high national profile as an influential figure in the education world”, to do otherwise risked undermining public confidence in the profession.
Although she had admitted her wrongdoing, she had also showed “a lack of insight into the severity and impact of her behaviours”.
Andrew Christie, executive director of children’s services at Westminster City Council, which ran the school until 2008, had referred the case to the professional body.
“We expect very high standards from teachers and head teachers in Westminster,” he said.
Doubt she’ll be down for long.
Suit yourself.
Is it me or does it seem strange that people come on general discussion and post that they don’t want to discuss?
But our moderators don’t think like that; my thread on UKIP was merged with another thread (of mine) on UKIP, despite the different intentions of each thread. And this particular story is even mentioned on the Clarkson thread.
Still, we’ll see.
This is all involved with the Jeremy Clarkson thread.
Trolling me will not work. endex.
Just in case you cannot see further than your ego, the question was actually to anyone who cared to answer.
But if you really do not wish to answer can we make up you answer anyway?;o)
And what does ‘endex’ mean anyway? I have an idea, but this is not a military operation so please resurface in the real world, noduff.
If you had actually searched you would have found that the BNP censored their video themselves…
BNP Election Broadcast Featuring Muslim ‘Gangs’ Fails To Go Ahead On BBC
The BBC did not show a vile BNP cartoon featuring leering Muslim gangs as its party political broadcast, after the party deciding to submit a somewhat hurried substitute of a bloke talking in a room for four minutes.
The corporation said on Wednesday that contrary to the BNP’s claims of “censorship”, it did not actually stop the broadcast, but merely advised the party on its guidelines.
The Huffington Post UK was leaked a copy of the original animation submitted to the broadcaster over the weekend. It featured caricatured Muslim grooming gangs, swigging WKDs and leering at a schoolgirl, a woman in a burqa begging, and a bloodied silhouette of Michael Adebolajo, the killer of soldier Lee Rigby.
On Saturday, the BNP’s PR man Simon Darby said he was angry the animation had been leaked ahead of time, but insisted the BBC had not told him of any plans to stop the broadcast of the full animation. The party called the leak “a black ops campaign” against them.
On Tuesday night, just a few seconds of the animation was shown, with the segment cutting away to Darby, who said the “powers that be say we break Ofcom’s rules”. Ofcom do not set the guidelines that govern party political broadcasts on the BBC, only for ITV and Channels 4 and 5.
A BBC spokesperson said: “The BBC did not “censor” the broadcast. The BNP asked us for advice on the content on the broadcast and we advised them on the relevant guidelines and the law, when they subsequently submitted the broadcast it was editorially compliant.”
The corporation’s guidelines state that party broadcasts have an “obligation to observe the law, for example on libel, copyright and incitement to racial hatred and violence.”
In the clip shown on Tuesday night, Darby went on to allege other stories about the BNP had been hidden by the media, including a the somewhat bold statement that BNP leader Nick Griffin had stopped “the bombing of Damascus” and had “held peace talks with the Syrian government, and wrote the letter that helped sway Westminster to vote against war.”
The BNP leader himself appeared at the end of the clip, with a little rhyming couplet. “The other politicians are all the same. They’re all to blame,” he said, solemnly.
The BNP are not on the list of major parties and therefore do not automatically qualify for a Party Political Broadcast ahead of May’s European elections.
But Ofcom rules state that broadcasters should set a criteria so that other registered parties can qualify for a broadcast, and in 2014 that includes all parties that are running full lists of candidates in all English electoral regions, a spokesman for the watchdog said. The BBC has its own in-house guidelines.
“It is great news that common sense has prevailed,” Fiyaz Mughal, founder of the anti-Islamphobia group Tell MAMA told HuffPost UK.
“It seems the BNP simply is trying to promote more inflammatory messages just to catch some political limelight. Shameful is how I would describe it.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/30/bnp-party-broadcast-bbc_n_5238092.html
Yes, I am aware that this was published on 30/4/14, but I’ve found nothing else that comes remotely close – save this story (same source) about a BNP Youth Promotional video…
BNP Youth Promotional Video Decries Gays, Zionists, Bankers, Media, Islam, Immigration And Stephen Lawrence’s Mum
The BNP has released a horror show of a promotional video, featuring a raft of humourless youths offering disturbing rhetoric about the demise of Britain… and Stephen Lawrence’s mum.
The three-minute clip uploaded to YouTube asks “who is responsible for the ongoing attempt to irradiate the British culture and British identity?” an irradiation that has seemingly brought our once great nation crashing to its grazed and battered knees. The film also demands to know who is responsible for the “ever growing debt” and who is responsible for portraying “racist attacks as only being against non-whites”?
According to the eight culturally uniform cast members, Blighty’s downfall is attributable to the cultural Marxists that have infected schools and academia; the Zionists that have profited from British soldiers dying abroad; the militant homosexuals, who are trying to destroy the traditional family unit… and Stephen Lawrence’s mum (it is not made clear why she’s on the list).
Islam, immigration and the EU also take a kicking from an assortment of size 5 shoes, as do the bankers, capitalism and, of course, a complicit media.
“We want our land to be a home for our people and our culture,” says a wiry-haired boy before one of his colleagues chips in with a demand return to “core Christian values”.
In recent weeks, the BBC became embroiled in a row over a vile BNP cartoon featuring leering Muslim gangs as a party political broadcast, forcing the BNP to submit a somewhat hurried substitute of a bloke talking in a room for four minutes.
The corporation insisted that contrary to the BNP’s claims of “censorship”, it did not actually stop the broadcast, but merely advised the party on its guidelines.
The Huffington Post UK was leaked a copy of the original animation submitted to the broadcaster. It featured caricatured Muslim grooming gangs, swigging WKDs and leering at a schoolgirl, a woman in a burqa begging, and a bloodied silhouette of Michael Adebolajo, the killer of soldier Lee Rigby.
In response, the BNP’s PR man Simon Darby said he was angry the animation had been leaked ahead of time, but insisted the BBC had not told him of any plans to stop the broadcast of the full animation. The party called the leak “a black ops campaign” against them.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/13/bnp-youth-promotional-video_n_5317969.html
If there was anything about a recent ban then it surely would have been a little bit easier to find?
But for which party…?;o)
This somewhat reminds me of the guy that reported his neighbours to the police for having wildly enthusiastic sex with the lights on and their curtains left open. The visiting policeman, having looked out from the complainant’s house points out that it isn’t actually possible to see the into neighbours’ bedroom window, to which the response is “Well you have to climb on that wardrobe first, you’ll find the binoculars up there”
Hey, when I posted that you deleted it because of the younger element we (apparently) get here…;o)
No, you aren’t; you’re indulging in your usual school playground yah-boo tactics of trying to get others to lose their tempers. FAIL (that’s why I deleted previous posts, since I won’t play to your tune); come back, and try again, when you’ve achieved proper adulthood.
I am not sure what you think you are talking about – I repeated most of each of your post in my replies…doing the same now just in case you decide to run off with your ‘toys’ again.
And I thought we were discussing – I said the ‘n’ word was offensive, and you wanted to reclaim it for paint charts and printers inks, etc. Now you are going on about the name chosen by the novelty act that won Eurovision and claiming I’m trying to get you to lose your temper. Personally (and I don’t care how you feel about it) I think you did lose your temper and that was why you threw your teddy out of the pram – but you lost that plot and came back again.
Now please play nicely.
BUT what other option is there?
I initially found it difficult progressing in my higher education, conversing with the lecturers using their first names. Granted, it was just a mindset that soon passed but there was (later) the ingrained respect given to your elders when you started work and had to speak to ‘Mr Jones’ or, when they permitted it, ‘Mr Bob’.
I shall overlook your early bedtime…
Thank you for – somebody, at last! – reacting to the initial post.
In this case what is the other side that needs to be investigated? The British military are an organised force with rules and regulations to follow; it would be difficult to apply a similar investigation to the irregulars fighting at the time in Iraq…
And since the military already has set up the Iraq Historical Allegations Team (four years ago) they obviously feel there is something to be investigated, either to clear or prosecute presumably.
Short posts without trolling and with just 1 or 2 quotes will get much better results than long diatribes and 10 – 20 quotes LOL
Tried short posts. Didn’t work for me. People start replying before I get the gist of my own reply across and I start missing out other, sometimes more important, posts. And putting post numbers instead of quotes doesn’t direct the reader toward the section of the post being answered and, as we found recently, gets confusing when somebody deletes their posts because the numbers don’t get deleted too…
Re 6
Tony, we do not have ‘free speech’ in this country. We have conditional free speech. If you say something which a vociferous minority finds offensive, a tide of hate will surge your way. Ironic really, when one considers that a perceived ‘hate crime’ was the trigger !
Charlie @ 8 hits the bullseye.
Just because a majority believe something to be right does not make it, necessarily, right.
If over half the population said that Danny Dyer (bad British ‘action’ actor) should be strung up in Parliament Square for crimes against acting, no matter how deserved it was, should that be permitted?
And if somebody finds something offensive should you be permitted to rubbish their reasons just because you don’t take offense? Who’s ‘offensive’ do you take notice of, and whose do you rubbish? If your mother found something offended her but you don’t, do you tell her to suck it in and grow a pair, or do you take note even though your own mother is in the minority?
Do enlighten us with your wisdom, please…
At what point do we stop importing people?
How about when our people, Britons, are able to fill those gaps that highly skilled foreign workers (the ‘good‘ immigrants) currently fill, as well as when Britons also feel up to taking all the low skill, low pay jobs that are just as, if not more, important but current filled by non-choosy low skilled foreign workers (the ‘bad‘ immigrants)?
I know everyone has to live somewhere but, when do we stop? 70, 80 or 100 million ? During the most mundane activity on a day-to-day or, weekly basis, whether it be shopping at the supermarket or buying fuel, one has to queue.
Walking along the pedestrianised area in my local town is, because of crowding, no easy task. Thousands of people on any day of the week accompanied by prams, pushchairs, bikes, shopping trolleys – all needing space. It is next to impossible to stride out and get somewhere in excess of the walking speed of the crowd. Go for a cup of tea and you will queue. GP’s waiting rooms and motorways stuffed with people and cars.
And it is immigrants causing the queues?;o)
Sorry – my local pedestrian precinct is never full of people; the last time I had to weave through massed throngs there was during a diamond jubilee event in 2012, and that was mainly because the council had built a stage across the precinct blocking off most of the thoroughfare. Same with the next town; Tuesday is market day and if they spaced out the stalls a bit better (to hide the gaps and empty shops) then there would be plenty of room instead of the opportunity to get your ankles skinned by an OAP speeding along on their mobility scooter.
Queuing at a cafe might have something to do with the staff chatting to their favourite customers (all too frequent an occurrence, I’ve found) or being unable to decipher between different types of cake or coffee and having to confer with the boss. And much as we would all enjoy being able to drop into the docs without needing to wait, that would mean they’d have time on their hands and that is inefficient – I’d love to get paid for doing nothing but wait, but no one wants to play ball on that one…
Why are “humans better united ?” To me that is an empty phrase beloved of politicians and sociologists. Why on earth would we want to ‘entwine’ with each other? I have little to nothing in common with most people nor do they with me. For the last fifteen or so years we’ve been driven to exasperation with political advice to embrace ‘diversity’ and yet if I read you correctly you want us all to throw our arms around unwashed strangers and enjoy a lovefest !
If we aren’t united I guess we are all battling each other individually? Many hands make light work…?
Sure you can think of your own cliche to apply here… Not sure I want to go about hugging all and sundry, although it might help fill the doctors spare time.
UKIP are popular – at the moment, of that there is little doubt, and the reason? They are prepared to talk about -hopefully in a meaningful way, widespread concerns about not only immigration but the relevance of the EU to the future of Britain. In a week or two we will know something about their popularity or otherwise.
Unfortunately UKIP take this apparent ‘plus’ point and run it up the figurative flag pole with the crazy rantings of people who think gay marriage causes flooding* and are not afraid to admit it.
(*Many other crazy rantings are available…)