Lets first list what are all on offer

F16
F18 super bug
C-130 ?
Hawkeye 2000
P-3C orion
PAC-3

Please add …..

I’ll be honest: no matter how much they try, i will label ANY future Japanese fighter a total failure if it can’t change into a robot or other sort of mecha.

LOL… Looks like home made F-22 … :diablo:

What is the difference between the latest SU-27 shown in Paris show and the SU-30 ? anybody ?

I just finished reading a scanned article from latest Vayu the IAFs internal magazine on
the Cope India 04.

it says the vast majority of the 9:1 victories against the F-15s were chalked up by the Mirages and not the Su30s. says the US hyping the russian machines maybe because US and France are usally in direct competition for sales, not so with russia.

also says FrAF Mirages have been defeating the F-15 quite easily in their own US-France exercises.

for a few days u can download the pdf here(Shiv BR webmaster has put it):

http://sr2.mytempdir.com/59515

Wow, thats news to me. :confused:

But more that actual real effectivennes of PAC-3 in Indian subcontinent , Its the Pychological Impact which will be felt in the region , As seen Pakistan is already crying Foul and China equally watching it closely . A few Patriot Battries here and there will make Pakistani think hard before trying options.

Austin. It is a real good deterent to Pak’s missiles. Even if Pak is not making much noise, they will be doubtful about their missile capabilities of first strike because of PAC-3 presence.

IMO India should develop its own missile defense so that it will not be compromised.

“India can have her locally produced Su-30MKI’s, but then scrap the MiG-21, MiG-27 etc. Pakistan can have her JF-17’s but don’t waste money on F-16’s”

– First of all, MKI is fall in different category when compared to Mig-21… I am not sure about JF-17s..

Regarding buying of arms.. India’s requirement has gone beyond the two envy neighbours.. Since the ecomomy is going strong and growing need for energy which is mostly imported it has to keep it transportation facilities safe.. because this is basic for survival of a nation. Since India has long coastline and offshore facilities It needs Aircraft carrier to patrol long sea lanes.

Tu-22M lease – this one is a stop gap arrangement to Maritime recon requirement not a long term replacement. Thats why it is a lease. India needs long range MR a/c like the Bear. These are supposed to operate along with Bears.

As Jaeger points out, todays defense deals benefit local industry one way or other. After the successful implemetation of MKI program, more deals are tailored based on this blue print.

For example , MRCA requirement , Hawk deal, PAK-FA (if these has to be an agreement..) etc.. 😎

Urrr Indian, Im lost why is china forcing India to buy 126 new fighters on top of the LCA and 180 Su30MKI, the chinese hardly have the worlds best equipped airforce at the moment and I have not heard anything from china about wanting anything but a peacefull and prospersous relatioship with India.
I certainly agree with the pakistan thing, But neither should India be exempt from this, There is still substantial poverty in India (I know it is improving rapidly along with your economy) but the Indians are spending vast sums of money on new planes, ships, tanks, etc etc, when the only real threat to them is pakistan, which already stands little chance in any conflict with India.

Sea, India is flexing it muscle because of its economic strength.. it will steeply grow in the coming years..with the growing economy the concern for security to protect the growth. Indian goverment is doing its best to reduce poverty..As in US terms.. economically strong = military might.. :dev2: