As a Christian surely you practice “turn the other cheek” from the Sermon on the Mount, whereas you seem to be espousing the old Testament ethos of “an eye for an eye”.

In some respects you are right Joey, but there is also ‘do unto others as they do unto you’. As i said i am a christian and proud of it, but there comes a point when even our humanity can be tested by those whose authority and rules we are told and expected to follow.

Going slightly off thread but for as long as politicians keep on listening to the likes of shammi chakrabati and her tin pot organisation liberty, there will never be any proper justice for victims or punishment for the guilty. The rights of a human being are exactly that.. to be human and to act with decency and respect towards others accordingly. Petty theft, assault, driving whilst disqualified or any other ‘minor’ criminal offence, especially when it is carried out time and time again is no excuse for leniency, and should carry a mandatory prison sentence of say at least five years… just in the same way that rape, torture, terrorism or murder should mean life in prison. And when i say prison i mean locking them away securely and giving inmates the basic of essentials.. such as food, water, clothes and a bed.
How many times do we see lawyers telling their clients to plead guilty to manslaughter rather than murder, just to get a more lenient sentence. That has nothing to do with justice for the victim, because the victim is seen as irrelevant nowadays… instead its more to do with getting the criminal off lightly, leading to apparent re-habilitation and helping them to ‘re-enter’ society and be given a second, or third, or twentieth chance.

Believe it or not i am a practising christian with christian values.. but until such time that liberal attitudes such as parole, leniency and cushy prisons are abolished then i will not condemn such actions against inhuman monsters such as steven barker. If you are convicted and found guilty of such a henous crime then in my view you deserve every punishment metered out to you.

baz mate.. you started a thread on cars, and now one on whisky… can you just let me know when you take to the road next.. cheers. :D:eek:

Rob.

Ooooh yes..I’m a big fan of females in football
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZcSEE7TuGU

Strewth.. and they play that in just a pair of knickers?:eek: Makes the guys look like a bunch of woosies with all their padding and posing. :rolleyes:

There are some fit and good looking girls in that clip… and not a Polish rivetter from the Gdansk shipyard in sight. 😀

Well i do follow football, and on occasion referee at U12 level at my sons footie games. I personally wonder if women refs would receive even less respect than the male refs do today. Its a tough job at any level, and sometimes leaves you feeling rather low, alone and personally abused. And because of that i would question whether the female of the sexes MAY find that just too much to take.
I’ve yet to see a ref break down in floods of tears, although i’m sure some may have come close without owning up to it. But a female ref..?.. hmm.

By the way Mrs Bee, its eleven players kicking the ball in either direction, including the goalies, and not ten. 😉

What about Yorkshire Airlines ? ——-> http://office-humour.co.uk/tags/movie/4846/

That looks like the Duxford Britannia.

3 seat glider, never knew they made them

Schweizer 2-32 glider

That makes two of us.

No disrespect to Ian Carmichael, and not wanting to turn this into a Ronnie Barker thread, but all i can find is that he was awarded three Baftas and an OBE. No mention of turning down a Knighthood.!