Paul (Bradburger), many thanks for starting this thread, for now i have finally read a piece of evidence that answers a question i have had for a long time.. namely was the roll rehearsed or practised before.
According to Keith Sissons letter in Flight 14th Aug 1981, “that fatal roll was not an unrehearsed sudden notion. Bullock had practised with an A-26 instructor during the previous year and had flown the manouevre at shows earlier that season, prior to which he had told me that he would not introduce it into his routine until he was thoroughly satisfied that he had perfected it”.
… therefore allow it to continue so individuals can contribute to it if they so wish.. Trying to pretend it never happened is not the answer.!
And no you can’t make a Spiteful from one!
Absolutely.. far better to make a Seafang instead.:D
Just a thought but does anyone know how many Fireflies are currently airworthy worldwide.. is it one in Canada and Australia respectively.?
Firefly 1 prototype Z1828. Note the incredibly tiny windscreen that looks out of proportion to the rest of the aircraft..
Hi TJ
It does not really matter!!
It was a really stupid thing to do,doing low level aerobatics in a bomber especially with passengers on board was and is plain dumb or much worse.
I have tried hard to stay out of this thread but aviation is a tough environment with no room for sentimentality,everything needs to be out in the open.
Also an experienced pilot running an aircraft out of fuel in good weather on a local flight is inexcusable,bad weather or student pilot would make it more understandable.
I have said on another (unrelated) thread that a very low pass is not necessarily dangerous…looping/rolling manoevers at low altitude are extremely risky and I have witnessed 3 fatalities as a result of either starting the manoever low/slow or failing to gain enough height for the recovery.regards baz
Baz.. totally agree with what you have just said.
But personally i would be interested to know if anyone on here, or during the subsequent investigation, witnessed DB successfully doing exactly the same at a much greater height and possibly with fewer individuals on board.. such as a practice flight close to Dx. Its hard to believe that any pilot would carry out such a manouevre without having done it at least once before and so believing that he could do it again..
Is there anyone on this forum that actually flew with him in the Invader at sometime.?
Sorted.. Here’s a few for the Royal Navy fans.;)
Bruce, have tried to add some pics to this thread but it appears i have reached my limit for uploading photos on the forum. How do i go about fixing this.?:confused:
Not airworthy just yet but the Percival Q.6 springs to mind.! Also there have been a few notables in the past.. Fairey Flycatcher and Miles Student for example..
Beat this………………………………:D
Was this the one on loan to Greenpeace..:D
Rare photo of a coal powered DC8..those were the days, cough!
Very good..:D:D
Thanks Paul,
i realise this is always going to be a touchy subject but you will never satisfy everyone. I can just remember my father talking to DB at Duxford on occassions, but thats about it, and have always wondered just what sort of guy he was. According to a lady that worked in the canteen in the seventies he was a real gent, in fact far more than some of those that she served.
Some want to know exactly what happened, others don’t. We are all different. So those that want to know can follow the link, those that don’t.. then don’t.
Just came up with this..
The Attackers last service career was with the Pakistan Air Force. After protracted negotiations 36 Attackers were sold to Pakistan, 33 were ferried out by Supermarine pilots, and the other 3 were flown out by Pakistan Air Force pilots as an exercise, the flying time to Karachi averaging 11 hr and 40 mins.
But.. i have also read that they were in fact registered to the Pakistan Navy.:confused:
Cees, yes i believe it was on display at the Rebel Air Museum before it closed down, and is still in the vicinity.
Scouse, don’t suppose you remember anything that resembled parts of a Wyvern do you.? The reason i ask is that the vast majority of Westland Wyverns scrapped at Lossiemouth were handled by a company called British Alluminium based in Warrington, and although they seem to have been processed fairly quickly i have always wondered if anything ended up in local scrappies..!
So it had a 26ft diameter prop assembly?!? Crikey
Jon
Well i said it was a beast..:D