If anyone has any pics of surviving Pythons do please post them or let me know. I am keen to discover what condition/how complete they are.. and also does anyone know of any surviving contra props for the Python/Wyvern combination (not Double Mamba/Gannet).!
Johnnie, you might as well list all you have on here.. before this turns into a post of just “me too”..
Yes thanks for sharing those David, please don’t hesitate to post some more. And yes i agree with Nashio, its always sad to see aircraft being used in there prime and ‘alive’, and then another shot of them being broken up and ‘killed off’..
Lincoln B.2 RF403 also had two Pythons similarly installed and was used for high-altitude bombing trials at Woomera South Australia, the Pythons being used to increase the ceiling of the Lincoln to reach heights from which tests could be carried out.
The two surviving Pythons in Australia are assumed to be associated with the operation of the Python Lincolns at Woomera.
Ahh good point.. that is probably a very logical explanation.. And it would be interesting to know what mark of Python they are.!
chippie.. The guy who owned the yard informed me at the time that he had removed and kept the “Python” brass name plate from the engine, so i have always assumed that it was indeed a Python.!
Was the yard Marine Salvage?
Thanks guys.. thats two examples i never knew about, wonder how they ended up in Australia?
Also when i first became interested in the Wyvern in the late 80’s, i was told that in the USA there was an example still being used in some form of industry, possibly not aviation related. Whether it still had the contra-props still attached was’nt known.!
Does that sound familiar with anyone else, or maybe it was a case of mistaken identity?!
There was a sectioned Napier Sabre at Dx.. presume its still on display.?!
Well if the national lottery can plough £60m into the national opera house (know anyone that goes there??), then i’m sure they can be abit more generous in there support of something that is more of an interest to the vast majority of the british public.. and before someone says that they have already had a lottery grant, it was nowhere near £60m..!
What is it with people who continually bash those that try to achieve something.. this IS our LAST chance to keep a Vulcan in the air.. the last of the V bombers that we all miss at airshows and operational airfields. When she was due to display at Dx i had people with very little aeronautical interest enquiring as to when she would be arriving, such is the draw of this british icon.. so come on guys, don’t be so bl**dy defeatist.!
The only one i can think of was Robs Lamploughs Merlin engined Hispano version, which was around for a short time in the late seventies/early eighties.?
As i recall it ground looped and came to grief at Biggin Hill, and was not repaired by said operator.
Well said, and i could’nt agree more. On the morning after the accident i saw the wreckage laying scattered in the field, and could’nt believe it when the guy from the TV crew covering the story told me that both crew members were alive and ok.
That was one hell of a prang..
Yes, the XP-86 did it (in a dive) on 26 April 1948 – this is an officially recognised record, not the rumoured George Welch flight before Yeager’s.
Ahh.. thanks for that. I never knew about this, and always assumed that John Derry was the first recognised pilot to break the sound barrier in an actual aeroplane.
Didn’t the XP-86 officially exceed Mach 1 before this time?
Thats a new one on me.. anyone else.?
OK going off thread a little here so appologies, and this may drum up some heated debate, but in MY opinion the first man to break the sound barrier in a true aeroplane was John Derry, De havilland 108’Swallow’, Sept 1948.
Why? Well firstly the aeroplane (not manned rocket) took off, went through the sound barrier, and landed, all under its own power. There was no assisted take off ala B29 mother ship.
The Bell X-1 was essentially a rocket powered manned missile with pilot induced controls. It did not take off on its own, nor did it land under controlled power.
Chuck Yeager (indeed a fine aviator) was the first man to officially break the sound barrier and live, BUT i don’t believe it can be said that it was achieved in an aeroplane..
It has never ceased to amaze me how little fuss and celebration was made of John Derry’s history making flight.. only the british could be so underwhelmed and unimpressed by such a significant achievement..!
Sorry if this has been suggested before, but surely another reason why the Merlin was not used or seriously considered in the Whirlwind was because there simply were not enough to go round.. Spitfires, Hurricanes, Battles, Lancs etc all taking up what RR were manageing to produce. I doubt if another ‘possible’ customer for the merlin would ever have been entertained?!:confused:
Judgeing by the pics i have seen it would appear that the secureing straps used by the transport company/driver were tightened down directly onto the airframe, without use of any suitable packing material or padding between the two.
As an ex lorry driver i find it unbelievable that the driver deemed this as a satisfactory way of secureing a load, especially a historical load. Ratchet straps are very secure but very unforgiveing when tightened down.. something that should be remembered by anyone thinking of transporting items that can be compressed.!
Not a very good scan but proof that she is alive and well..