Turning a P-47 vs a 190…..have not found a direct comparison yet, though with trials of P-47 vs other types it was a bit of a slug especially at lower altitudes. Up it the range of the bomber stream, the P-47 was more in it’s element.

Found an interesting page with lots of good wartime “secret” data vs Allied fighter types (alas no FW190 or bf109). By comparing how the 47 ran against these fighters, and how the 190 compared to those same fighters, it looks like the 47 might have had a bit of an edge at altitude……but it had the same turning weakness as the 190…..

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/p-47c-afdu.html

I believe that would have been Truk Lagoon. Had a History Channel show on the “Ghosts” of Truk. Sounds like some of the same dive spots. They are working hard to keep souvenir hunters from further stripping the wrecks. Truk is turning into a premier dive spot and they would like to keep it that way.

http://diversionoz.com/en/micronesia-truk.htm?gclid=CIClnZTYl5UCFQJvswodEAglhA

A torpedo is definitely the way to go for a sure kill. Missiles are not a sure thing depending on where the strike hits. A target ship, the Ashtabula, a retired oiler, shows how hard it is to sink a ship. Granted, it had all fuel removed and therfore wouldn’t burn or explode.

” In all, the oiler was subjected to eight Harpoon missiles, two Standard (SM-2) missiles, three Sea Skua missiles, four bombs from S-3 Vikings, and over 100 rounds of gunfire from 3″, 100mm, and 5″ guns. The ship was then sunk by demolition charges as it refused to sink!!”

Pictures and more data here about half way down the page
http://www.hazegray.org/features/mareisland/

Isn’t that just the new de-icing system?!?:diablo:

Try this link for a lot more info, crashed in ’45, lots of local folk came out to look at the wreckage, even film it….hence the film on youtube

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/571448/page/0

Don’t you need 4 to balance out?

After a careful analysis of available footage of the parade, it appears that all of the troops were wearing uniforms that fit (more or less) and a secret intel report leaked to the press stated that they also had matching socks!!:eek: This is reported to be a first for the “New” Army :diablo:

Is there a waiting list to get one?!?

Here is a link to one in NZ, though it looks a bit different, could there be two?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vchera/751575898/in/set-72157600053711019/