What, no huge, solidly built packing crate with all spares and every exposed part carefully preserved?!
Thanks for the replies and photos – I think it was the same Bleriot used in both shots, the Brooklands one doesn’t have the external engine framing at the front;
Also shown in the recreated Selfridge store – couple of shots showing it here – http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-01-11/mr-selfridge-episode-two-preview-pictures-and-predictions
That wasn’t the only accident involving the Lockheed 14 either, there were quite a few involving the British Airways Lockheed 14’s. I studied it for my dissertation if anyone’s interested in a copy of that segment.
The glazed cockpit roof as featured on the Hudsons was introduced on the 14’s by British Airways, who requested it for extra visibility – the pre-BA Lockheed 14’s as supplied to US carriers had a metal roof above the cockpit like the later Lockheed 18’s
Also, the Lockheed 10a Electra G-AESY used for one of the Munich trips crashed in very unusual circumstances and the cause was never officially determined – only the pilot survived, and the casualties included a British MP and two American oil company executives
According to the page, they haven’t acquired one yet but are looking at options
Possibly daft question but is it usually based at EMA? I’ve worked at East Midlands for almost two years and have never spotted it
If it wasn’t for the RAF Museum they wouldn’t be in this country. They comissioned them.
I’m sure TVAL can build two more flyers if anyone wants to put up the money.
DD
There’s already at least one other RE8 flying in New Zealand, and at least one Albatros, so there’s plenty of opportunity to see them
Words cannot express how disgusted I am that those two aircraft are just being left sitting in that museum. In fact, i’m almost ready to say I will not visit the place again.
Yes, it’s absolutely disgusting, a museum acquires two aircraft, allows them to fly at at least two airshows at surely considerable expense to themselves, then puts them in their own museum which was their plan all along. Disgusting!
Seriously!
When I read this text in AM it greatly concerns me what the next development will be !:
“the museum is exchanging artifacts which have no connection with the history of the RAF with ones incorporating extensive original material that significantly enhance the collection”
Unless I am greatly mistaken neither the Albatros nor the RE8 incorporate extensive original material . Certainly the Snipe does incorporate original parts but it’s not a rebuild of an existing machine.
The Hanriot was certainly flown by on the Allied side during WW1 and the Farman has clear history of visiting Hendon during WW1 -undoubtedly in connection with the British use of Farman aircraft.
If the RAFM can use this as a justification for exchange of original aircraft for replica’s -I wonder if we will see the LVG move to Hendon or be sent abroad in exchange for more replicas?
Both the Albatros and RE8 have a huge relevance to the RFC/RAF’s history though, much much more than the Hanriot and Farman, and the RE8 fills a big gap, and a very important one, in recognising the vital artillery observation work done by the RFC which was arguably the most important part of the RFC’s role in WW1, despite how glamorous the scouts may seem. It will be great to get a good look at an RE8 too considering how poorly displayed the Duxford one is!
Aside from the Smithsonian book on the Bleriot, are there any other regarding these aircraft that anyone can reccommend? Would like to learn more about this very important aircraft.
Thanks, Rob
Well I saw the word ‘nigger’ used in a historical film as the name of a pet a couple of years ago – the remastered ‘Great White Silence’ about Scott’s ill fated South Pole expedition, as it was the name of the ship’s cat, who performed tricks (well, jumping). It was a silent film but BFI didn’t have a problem with flashing the cat’s name in big letters on the cinema screen;
He’s in Elms Road Graveyard (not All Saints Churchyard as mentioned in other places, which is across the road), Harrow Weald, nearest tube station is Stanmore and about 10-15 minutes drive from RAFM Hendon.
To be precise he’s right in the southern corner of the graveyard one or two graves back from the path where it comes through the hedge off Elms Road. About 100 metres away is the William Leefe Robinson VC Steakhouse, which has relics of the SL11 and a superb wall high copy of a photo showing William Leefe Robinson and his RFC Squadron mates after he shot down the airship, which is fantastic. Despite a few changes of ownership it’s kept the name, thanks in part at least to public pressure I believe. A real hero of mine, I heartily reccommend ‘The Airship VC’ by Raymond Laurence Rimell.
Here’s the Defiant yesterday
Now that’s a sight never to be repeated…. best company I ever worked for
They were selling off bits of Wellington fabric at Hendon a few weeks ago