BluesharkYes but their comments on the stealthiness of the different countries’ designs is worth reading.
Bluesharkhttp://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2011-03.html
A Preliminary Assessment of Specular Radar Cross Section Performance in the Chengdu J-20 Prototype
Air Power Australia Analysis 2011-03
4th July 2011A Monograph by
Dr Michael J Pelosi, MBA, MPA,
Dr Carlo Kopp, SMAIAA, SMIEEE, PEngOverall, the stealth shaping of the J-20 prototype design is without doubt considerably better than that seen in the Russian T-50 PAK-FA prototypes and, even more so, than that seen in the intended production configuration of the United States’ F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.
Bluesharkhttp://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6301965&c=AIR&s=TOP
Defense News
Is China Developing a VSTOL Fighter?
By Wendell Minnick
Published: 22 Apr 2011 14:06TAIPEI – China may have test-flown the J-18 Red Eagle vertical short takeoff and landing (VSTOL) fighter earlier this month, if chatter on Chinese-language military blogs is accurate.
China’s defense industry is largely opaque and it is difficult to substantiate Internet chatter. However, Chinese-language military blogs reported the first test flight of the stealthy J-20 Black Eagle fighter in January, much to the surprise of the Western media.
BluesharkQualitatively and capability wise the IAF is way ahead of the PRC today. By 2025 (if all goes as planned) it’ll be second only to the USAF. The J-20 won’t change that- but a lifting of the arms embargo might (i.e. not likely).
As for the ACM, rather rash statements (probably juiced-up by the journo) who knows, maybe the ACM’s seen the E-721 😉 (:p).
Jo, you are obviously very proud of your country India, but can you take your flaming elsewhere? 😮
BluesharkSo what is the next smear going to look like? Will they claim that the Black Eagle is a copy of the Saab Viggen? :p
BBC 25 January 2011 Last updated at 10:58 GMT
A Chinese state newspaper has dismissed reports that technology for Beijing’s J-20 stealth jet came from a US fighter downed in 1999 during the Kosovo war.
Croatia’s military chief of staff at the time claims Chinese agents recovered parts of a F-117 Nighthawk stealth jet shot down over Serbia.
The Global Times quoted a top Chinese test pilot as saying the J-20 was a “masterpiece” of home-grown innovation.
An unnamed defence official described the claim as a foreign media “smear”.
“It’s not the first time foreign media has smeared newly-unveiled Chinese military technologies. It’s meaningless to respond to such speculations,” the official, from the Ministry of National Defence, told the Global Times.
A top test pilot, Xu Yongling, told the newspaper that the F-117 technology was already “outdated” even at the time it was shot down, and could not be applied to a next-generation stealth jet.
BluesharkDoes this mean that the Black Eagle and the PAK-FA are vulnerable to being shot down by obsolete SA-3s? :p
BluesharkAmazing! Black Eagle and Russian Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA reverse engineered from super American technology! 😀
Slobodan Lekic And Dusan Stojanovic, Associated Press – Sun Jan 23, 6:20 am ET
Balkan military officials and other experts have told The Associated Press that in all probability the Chinese gleaned some of their technological know-how from an American F-117 Nighthawk that was shot down over Serbia in 1999.
“We believe the Chinese used those materials to gain an insight into secret stealth technologies … and to reverse-engineer them,” Domazet-Loso said in a telephone interview.
“I don’t know what happened to the rest of the plane,” said Zoran Milicevic, deputy director of the museum. “A lot of delegations visited us in the past, including the Chinese, Russians and Americans … but no one showed any interest in taking any part of the jet.”
Zoran Kusovac, a Rome-based military consultant, said the regime of former Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic routinely shared captured Western equipment with its Chinese and Russian allies.
“The destroyed F-117 topped that wish-list for both the Russians and Chinese,” Kusovac said.
Russia’s Sukhoi T-50 prototype stealth fighter made its maiden flight last year and is due to enter service in about four years. It is likely that the Russians also gleaned knowledge of stealth technology from the downed Nighthawk.
BluesharkChina’s development of stealth fighter takes U.S. by surprise
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/07/world/la-fg-china-military-20110107
China’s development of stealth fighter takes U.S. by surprise
January 07, 2011
By Ken Dilanian, Los Angeles Times
Reporting from WashingtonA few weeks ago, grainy photos surfaced online showing what several prominent defense analysts said appeared to be a prototype of a Chinese stealth fighter jet that could compete with the best of America’s warplanes, years ahead of U.S. predictions.
Days later, the commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet disclosed that a long-awaited Chinese anti-ship missile, designed to sink an American aircraft carrier, was nearly operational.
BluesharkI can still post reply over at previous one… better shut it off?
Mods will be shutting down the previous thread soon.
BluesharkIT IS NOT MIG 1.44 Stealthrized.
the chief aerodynamicist, spelled out his entire ideas for this thing in a paper published in 90s.(?), (with quotes to Bill Sweetman to boot. ). this is not a Mig 1.44. reborn.
Agreed. Its really stupid to say that its a stealthicised Mig I.44.
But some will continue to desperately make that claim.;)
BluesharkCOMAC C919
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8494202.stm
Chinese planes challenge Boeing and Airbus
BBC World
The biggest potential threat to the dominance of Western aircraft makers has been unveiled at the Singapore Air Show.
China’s answer to Boeing and Airbus is showing a slender, blue-and-white model of the Comac C919 aircraft for the first time outside the mainland. Its introduction was low-key, a move consistent with how Chinese firms prefer to operate overseas.
The aircraft, designed and built entirely in China, will compete directly against industry stalwarts A320 and Boeing 737 after completing flight trials in four years. It should be available commercially by 2016.
“That’s our plan,” an official from the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, or Comac, tells BBC News.
“But it will be tough to stick to it. These days, delivery dates are often pushed back.”
Next year delivery
The C919 is part of China’s stated goal of developing a homegrown aerospace industry, which may someday challenge Airbus and Boeing’s hold on the global market for commercial aviation.
Comac is likely to build more than 2,000 C919s in the next two decades, with a view to grab a 10% share of the global market for narrow body aircraft.
It has been a meteoric rise for Comac, established just a year and a half ago.
Headquartered in Shanghai, the company is fully backed by the central government, as well as by the local government and a number of state-owned firms such as Chinalco and Baosteel.
Comac has already sold more than 240 of its ARJ-21 twin-engine regional jets to Chinese airlines, as well as to a Laotian carrier and to a unit of General Electric. The plane is scheduled for delivery to customers next year.
Bluesharkhttp://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15271130
As China’s army flexes its muscles, a missile is intercepted in space
Jan 14th 2010 | BEIJING
From The Economist print editionAFTER startling the world three years ago with the blizzard of hazardous space debris scattered by a secretive test of an anti-satellite missile, China this week tried a more upfront approach. Instead of waiting for the Pentagon to tell the world, the official news agency, Xinhua, on January 11th tersely announced China’s successful test of a land-based missile-defence system. It was not, it said, directed at any other country.
For an army that rarely flaunts its technological achievements, this marked a cautious openness. But that will hardly reassure the Americans.
The test apparently made China the only country after America to use a missile to destroy another in space.
A Pentagon official confirmed that two missiles had been detected and that they had collided outside the earth’s atmosphere. The Pentagon was not informed in advance.
BluesharkDon’t have capability or intention to match China force for force: Navy chief
Manu Pubby
Tags : Chinese force, India, Navy chief
Posted: Tuesday , Aug 11, 2009 at 0944 hrs
New Delhi:Admitting that India neither has the “capability nor the intention” to match China’s military strength, Chairman of Chiefs of Staff Committee and Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta said here today that “common sense dictates” that India needs to cooperate with China rather than confront it.
“In military terms, both conventional and non-conventional, we neither have the capability nor the intention to match China, force for force. These are indeed sobering thoughts and therefore our strategy to deal with China would need to be in consonance with these realities,” Mehta said, delivering an address on National Security Challenges organized by the National Maritime Foundation.
In his address, perhaps his last in public as Navy chief — he retires month-end — Mehta said: “Common sense dictates that cooperation with China would be preferable to competition or conflict, as it would be foolhardy to compare India and China as equals…Whether in terms of GDP, defence spending or any other economic, social or development parameter, the gap between the two is just too wide to bridge and getting wider by the day,” the officer said.
Bluesharkhttp://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSSHA8510120081128
SHANGHAI, Nov 28 (Reuters) – China’s first domestically developed regional aircraft, the ARJ21-700, completed its maiden test flight on Friday, the Xinhua news agency said.
The 90-seat jet, unveiled last December, landed safely at an airport in Shanghai after an hour’s flight, Xinhua said on its website.
China has secured 208 orders for the jet, due to start commercial delivery within 18 months, including five firm orders from General Electric’s (GE.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) aircraft leasing arm, GE Commercial Aviation Services.
Production capacity for the jets is currently at 20 units a year, Xinhua said.
China is also developing large passenger and cargo aircraft, hoping to compete eventually with Boeing (BA.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and Airbus (EAD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz).
Bluesharkhttp://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSHKG28859320081104
By James Pomfret
ZHUHAI, China (Reuters) – China’s main aircraft maker has sealed an agreement worth up to $750 million to sell five jets, with an option for 20 more, to General Electric’s (GE.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) aircraft leasing arm, in its first major overseas deal for the homegrown plane.
The government-backed Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) signed an official agreement with GE Commercial Aviation Services on the Chinese-designed ARJ21 civilian jets on Tuesday at the biennial Zhuhai airshow in southern China.
“It is the first time that an aircraft that is researched and developed by China is sold to the United States, such a high-end market,” said Zhang Qingwei, the Chairman of COMAC.
“Also, during the process of implementing this contract we will be able to greatly improve ourselves in terms of mass production, customer service and industry awareness.”
GE Commercial had signed a preliminary agreement in March with COMAC to buy five 78-seat ARJ21 jets fitted with GE engines, with an option to buy another 20 at an unspecified date.
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