With the number of CFM-56 engines bought by China, they should little problem duplicating the F110. The F110 uses the same core as the CFM-56. Its a simple reverse-engineering job.
Nonsense. You make it sound as if building a F110-class turbofan engine is so easy.
Dongdong2, why are you trying to bring back a dead thread?
The B737 is designed to fly at pretty high subsonic speeds at considerable altitude. For sub hunting you want to be able to fly slowly at low altitude. Can the B737 do this?
How does a jetliner like the B737 actually fly at low altitudes at slow speeds the way a plane like the Orion is able to? The B737 is designed for high subsonic cruising at considerable altitude. What happens when you try to bring a jetliner close to the water to chase subs? Or will that be avoided altogether?
I’m surprised they didn’t mention China. While China doesn’t have the tech level (yet) they could certainly bankroll the thing.
I heard that Russia was considering asking China to help, but China doesn’t seem interested in joining the PAK-FA program. 🙂
China is not stupid to spend billions of dollars for a project controlled by another country. China will not get the return as much as Russia which gain more technology expertise. While spending all this big money, there is no guarantee this PAK FA will be a sucess.
Besides, China has a silmilar project doing all alone, that is XXJ/ J-12. Sucess or not, China will still gain more experience from his project.
Who says the XXJ program even exists? How can you be sure it even exists? 🙂
1. Eurofighter
2. J-10
3. Rafale
4. Gripen….
I like the advanced Delta-Canards. 🙂
Huitong, that is beautiful picture of the JH-7A Flying Leopard.
The J-8II is still a useful fighter.
Mach 2.2 speed
2200km range
20200m ceiling
Its fast and it can fly higher than many other fighters. Upgraded with new radar and BVR missiles, it can kill much newer fighters in neighboring air forces.
What a dumb thread. You guys are debating about idiotic posts from another forum.
The Flying Leopard is the name of the JH-7 strike fighter. China is currently producing an improved version called the JH-7A Flying Leopard.
The JH-7A Flying Leopard and the Su-30MKK are two of China’s strike fighters. They are both big fighters capable of carrying out deep strikes against land and naval targets.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050502/hsasp1.html?.v=42
AIRBUS TO ESTABLISH LARGE ENGINEERING CENTRE IN CHINA
BEIJING – Aviation giant Airbus has said it will set up its fourth-biggest engineering centre in Beijing to do aircraft design work for its super long-range A350 passenger plane, which will carry about 300 passengers. Jean-Hugues Depigny, vice-president of customer services of Airbus China, said the centre will house about 200 engineers. According to a deal signed earlier this month by Airbus and China Aviation Industry Corporation II (AVIC II), the engineering centre will be a joint venture between the two firms, and will be located in the Tianzhu Airport Industrial Zone, adjacent to the offices of Airbus China.
FINFACTS IRELAND BUSINESS NEWS
By Finfacts Team
Jun 2, 2005, 11:16
US aircraft manufacturer Boeing announced on Thursday that it had signed contracts worth about $600 million with Chinese companies to supply aircraft parts until 2021.
Some of the parts are for Boeing’s new 787 Dreamliner aircraft.
Suppliers include Chengdu Aircraft Industrial (Group) Co. Ltd. and Hafei Aviation Industry Co. Ltd.
The Boeing 787 Dreamliner will carry 217-257 passengers and is due to enter service in 2008. As of March 2005, 501 of the 802 jetliners operating in China were Boeing airplanes (excluding Hong Kong and Macao). The Boeing unit market share in China is 63 percent and seat market share is 67 percent.
“China’s aviation industry is providing outstanding technological capabilities and resources that help us meet quality, cost and delivery imperatives in our program — particularly on the new 787,” Boeing executive Carolyn Corvi said in a statement.
Boeing was the sole supplier of large aircraft to the Chinese market for many years but now has to contend with stiff competition from Airbus.
Boeing said today that the Chinese companies would make the parts using their own technology and Boeing would not have to provide know-how.
“They are very competitive and that’s why we’re here,” Corvi said.
As of March 2005, 501 of the 802 jetliners operating in China were Boeing airplanes (excluding Hong Kong and Macao). The Boeing unit market share in China is 63 percent and seat market share is 67 percent.
From 1993 till present, Boeing instructed over 24,000 Chinese aviation professionals, half of whom are pilots, maintenance and flight operations people.
China and Boeing industrial cooperation began in the mid-1970s. There are now over 3,400 Boeing airplanes – nearly one third of the Boeing world fleet – flying worldwide that include major parts and assemblies built by China.
The Boeing Company forecasts that China will need more than 2,400 new jet airplanes worth $197 billion for the next 20 years.
The Russian air force has rejected the KS-172. But Russia is trying to sell a down-graded version of the KS-172 to India that has a range of 300km. This missile is probably useless against modern fighters but may be useful against slow, large targets like transport aircraft.
But is it useful to fire the KS-172 at maximum range against AWACS aircraft? How do you guide it at such long ranges? How vulnerable will it be to jamming?
If the KS-172 is fired at long range, can fighters shoot it down with missiles? The KS-172 is a very big AAM weighing 750kg. That’s 5 times the weight of the AMRAAM. Is such a big AAM useful?
Can opposing fighters shoot down the KS-172 with missiles to protect their own AWACS?
Harry is that a reliable source? The Indian media does screw up numbers very badly. Russian sources put the Su-30MKI at 34t maximum take off weight. Fomin puts it at 34t. Do you have a reliable source that clearly states that the Su-30MKI’s maximum take off weight is 38t? You obviously don’t. The Russian figures are correct. The Su-30MKI’s maximum take off weight is only 34t.
But you guys are still evading the main question. Why should Brazil choose the Su-30MKI over the Su-35? The Su-35 is clearly superior to the Su-30MKI.
The Su-30MKI is an older and less advanced design. The Su-30MKI has major problems with avionics integration and the N-011M Bars radar has major deficiencies that require extensive rectification work. Only 22 Su-30MKIs have been delivered in 8 years. These are all facts.
I strongly suggest that you read Fomin and other Russian sources before opening your mouth.