Did you mean oldest airworthy jet in the World?
There are older jets in museums etc.
Garry
Aurigny in the Channel Islander introduced Twin Otters on the short inter Island runs but they were not a patch on the Islander/Trislanders
The engines were difficult to start as the running time between starts was too short and a flat truck of linked batteries had to be used to help get them started
Sometimes they were difficult to start after a short time on the ground
The engines burn a lot more fuel than the pistons at low level and basically the cost was a lot more
The big problem with the Islander was not being able to meet the sporadic demand for aircraft. In order to fulfill orders when they came in they had to pre build and stock
It was the stock of unsold airframes tying up too much capital that caused so many cash flow problems and bankruptcies…..it was not anything to do within the aeroplane which was probably in it’s heyday the finest of it’s kind and in some applications still is.
Here she is in April ’07, awaiting the axe. Apart from the prototype are any early 747’s preserved anywhere even in the desert?
There was a thread about early suviving 747’s
Useful pics
But sadly that nothing like the fitted cabins in the rear of the British Superfreighter 32s
The Superfeighter was a specialised combi and was fully furnished in the pax cabin.There was bulkhead dividers and wall covering with window service units and a luggage rack.
Th NZ Freighters never had a rear cabin like the 32 which had extra windows cut into the rear and a cloakroom at the back as well as a toilet.
Mark 21 and 31 car ferries in the UK had full furnished pax interiors but I have no details. The NZ ones would probably have been similar to those.
Most freight only Freighters had provision for ‘staff’ seating in the rear which is the sort of thing the pics show. They would also carry the odd paying guest on an as is basis.
At the end of their lives in the UK, the Superfreighters carried only freight and were stripped out much as the interior of the NZ one there shows.
There is a small chance that the trip starting this thread was on the only Mk 31 operated by BUAF/BAF at the time in which case the interior was similar but a little further forward.
Try this
Tango Charlie………I would be interesed to see that pic as I am making a flight simulator model of the Superfreighter and one of the problems all along has been sourcing references:)
Garry
many thanks garry,thats helped clear up a few things ive been trying to remember all these years
NP
Check you PM’s
Garry
Hi sandridge
Yes it was probably carrying cars but I doubt if you would have felt any draught from the nose doors
The doors were fairly well sealed by an overlap and rubber and in any case there would have been a bulkhead between you and the freight hold.
The rear pax door was not an air tight fit and that may have given draughts but perhaps that was just the cabin vent system
I was on a Dash Eight earlier this week and that was draughty from the vents.
The engines were not cartridge started but did produce a lot of smoke on starting.
The cabin usually had seats facing fore and aft and was more akin to a period rail carriage than an airliner cabin.
I had a similar problem because my joystick was out and would not re calibrate.
New stick cured that
I have often read the ahermes had an excessivily haevy wing to be economicl.it was basically a Halix wing.
BOAC were retiring then after a couple of years but the Comet crashes saw it return to the African routes.
Garry
From what I remember
JF Airlines was John Fisher Airlines
It was sold and became Jersey Ferry Airlines to keep the same JFA initials
The first thing that strikes me is Swiss Air Lines DC 4
Hi James
The new aprons are sitting above the water carried on piles driven down in to the dock bed
Yep
A C-124 Gobemaster II no doubt there
Looks like an upside down wing and nacelle to me.
Thanks for that info
The fuse of G-APWH was a Norwich as well…….has that gone?