ok, so you aren’t even of age to drive?
that explains a lot.. go back to school kid
I sure am and you always check over your shoulder while reversing, because mirrors have blind spots.
No, both Mercurius (who actually has credibility), and the article I posted, stated that the ASRAAM has no data link. You are going by nothing but your opinion and hopes. We have seen you dismiss respected journals and articles written by experts with nothing but your own forlorn beliefs to counter them before. This is tiresome, learn more, make unsupportable claims less.
As I said, poor reporting, looked at website, made assumption, filled in the blanks. No author name even given. I have personally heard from an MBDA engineer that it does.
Mercurius changed his story as I already pointed out, that gives him exactly zero credibility, as do his comments dismissing the act of repair as a conspiracy theory.
It’s obvious a plane can change path, hence for LOAL, it must have a datalink period. Why would they not fit one, ask yourself that?
Given that most datalinks use the radar for their updates, LOAL shots (especially HOBS) could not connect to the datalink anyways.
um, from your link “NETWORK ENABLED” = datalink
Also
http://www.mbda-systems.com/?action=force-download-attachment&attachment_id=12854
SPEAR-Product-Data-Sheet.pdfThe ASRAAM’s datasheet from the same site makes no mention of a datalink.
http://www.mbda-systems.com/?action=force-download-attachment&attachment_id=12845Here is an example of it being reported that the ASRAAM does NOT have a datalink.
http://defense-update.com/newscast/0309/asraam_loal_test_130309.html
That first sentence makes zero sense.
But the title page makes no mention. The data link is to deal with relocating targets, so how is an aircraft not a relocating target?
Poor reporting. Looked at website, made assumption, filled in the blanks.
Fuel’s a joke, how can fuel still cost over £1/L given the record low price of oil? I shudder to think what it would be if we went back to early 2008 oil prices.
Well like it or not it’s true. Giving freebies to the rich is still socialism. How is tax avoidance any different to tax credits in principle?
One more time
All governments realocate tax money. Socialism has nothing to do with it.
You do have an interesting take on things. Tax dodging is a problem of socialism?
The extent to which it does it is.
Yes, the fact it’s allowed is a form of Socialism, because others have to pay for that amount dodged and the person dodging acquires extra wealth and the others lose wealth.
I said an increase of 4-5%
Inflation will come on essentials – Fuel, Food, Clothing will be hard hit.
At least some of the above is produced domestically and more can be if the economics make it beneficial. Wages will also likely rise for the poorest as a result of leaving.
Oh, no mention of data link here either. Must mean no data link right?
When proven wrong then fire the troll type argument…So predictable. Anyone can check what MBDA have to say on this.
Show me where they say specifically that it does not have one.
Show me one other LOAL missile with no data link.
You arbitrarily claim ASRAAM has less range. Now if you said AMRAAM has more range than ASRAAM, that would be logical because AMRAAM has a larger volume motor, however the fact is that ASRAAM has a larger volume motor than MICA, a lower surface area, less weight and less drag.
Since there is no mention in any mfg or government documentation saying that there is….. common sense says there is not.
Actually commonsense says it does because all other LOAL missiles have a data link. And LOAL isn’t some fake claim, it’s an extensively tested claim.
You can’t conclude anything on a video. Just get it, the ASRAAM as been designed has short range high velocity missile. If it had BVR capabilities there are no valuable reasons it wouldn’t be marketed as such by MBDA. the simple fact that it has no datalink is clear on the design philosophy. On the other hand the MICA has always been intended to serve as a BVR missile and is firmly established as such in several airforces (France, UAE, greece, India, Taiwan, Koweit, Egypt etc).
You mean the video doesn’t suit for premise.
MBDA has previously marketed it as such, why do you ignore information already posted?
ASRAAM’s maximum range is uncontested, and no other short-range air-to-air missile
comes near to this capability, providing the ability to passively home beyond the limits
of visual range and well into the realm traditionally thought of as Beyond Visual Range.
No other SRAAM comes near to this ability. So not R-74M at 45km, or AIM-9X at 35km.
MICA is not a true medium range missile, it’s only marketed as such because France have nothing else.
We do know, CAMM specifically mentions the 2-way data link, nothing on MBDA or the development of ASRAAM mentions a datalink. Moreover, the planned air launched version of CAMM will revert to IIR, negating ASRAAM.
Not to mention that said launches specifically state the ASRAAM recieves target information prior to launch, the missile predicts location prior to seeker activation. NO DATALINK, we can safely put that to rest:
http://defense-update.com/newscast/0309/asraam_loal_test_130309.html#continue
Israel didn’t mention Python V had a data link at first either.
Who’s that written by though, a Mercurius type I suspect, assuming that it doesn’t have one because of the brochure. These articles are often full of crap, just read the article on the fight against Daesh in July 2015 Combat Aircraft. One mistake after another, incorrect ranges, incorrect data, incorrect description of events.
No
ASRAAM is a short range high velocity missile. Give it a bearing prior to launch and it will find its way quickly enough to LOAL. IR seekers have a wide field of view it will manage to find its target at the right place…But of course that does not work at longe range. ASRAAM is no MICA : it doesn’t have the range and the datalink.
That’s why HMD targeting works, but you still need that data link for >25km shots. How come AIM-9X and all other LOAL missiles, even shorter range ones need a data link? Your argument fails either way, if the seeker is that good that it can find crap located somewhere behind it over 5+km away in ground clutter, then it wouldn’t have any use for a data link anyway. The tests also clearly show footage from the actual missile seeker too, so obviously they had a data link. ASRAAM is likely better than MICA, just as CAMM is better than MICA VL.
The fact that you have to bring a different missile for your comparison is telling of your ignorance. CAAM is heavier than ASRAAM and both have a very different propulsor pattern than the MICA > Sprint vs marathon.
ASRAAM : 88 kg
http://www.mbda-systems.com/air-dominance/asraam/
CAAM : 99 kg
http://www.mbda-systems.com/camm-solution/camm/
MICA : 112 kg
http://www.mbda-systems.com/air-dominance/mica/
Aster 15 : 310 kg (a better CAAM).
http://www.mbda-systems.com/aster-solution-maritime-superiority/aster-15-30/As you say ASRAAM (not CAAM) is 25km+ which would realisticaly mean 30km while the MICA is well over 60Km range with actual test up to 67Km. So yes the difference is huge. Not in the same category. There is no competition here.
The extra weight is the gas turnover system for the cold launch, no propellant in there, so if anything, it’s a slightly heavier, slightly draggier missile with the same motor.
Aster 15 is a much larger missile, 3x the weight and barely any more range. Take one look at a SAMP/T launcher (8 missiles) then a CAMM (L) launcher (12 missiles). In a ship VLS, you can stack 4 missiles in the same launcher that carries 1 Aster.
http://www.mbda-systems.com/maritime-superiority/sea-ceptor/
See 0:45, hardly a marathon motor at all.
Same basic airframe and motor, totally different guidance. CAMM uses command guidance via the datalink before going active, therefore can fly an efficent lead intercept route. Slant range may very well be “in excess of 25km” in those types of intercepts. The seeker head of the ASRAAM is not going to calculate a lead intercept, hence less effcient, period.
Most likely, both can be “in excess of 25km” depending on launch parameters, or conversly much less. No reason to think that MBDA is shading the range of ASRAAM just because CAMM has the same nominal range.
It’s been claimed that ASRAAM has no data link, but we don’t really know that. It has made OTS and LOAL shots and that is damn difficult without a data link, especially from 5+km away at low altitude. Think about that in terms of missile ranges at sea level.