Starfish PrimeActually I love the very British idea that once one has decided that one would never vote for someone that makes that person unelectable.
It leads to the same sort of dismay some remainers felt when the exiters won the referendum – in their minds the un-votable-for was voted for.
Churchill was branded ‘unelectable’ in the 1930’s – it took an effort of (unelected) statesmanship and leadership unsurpassed in our history as far back as Alfred the Great to prove otherwise and he was elected in 1951. There is no such thing as ‘unelectable’. Just unelected.
Doesn’t take a genius to figure this out mate. Milliband lost badly, regarded as too far left, so Labour picked someone even further to the left just to make completely sure they had no chance. It’s not just a matter that he’s too far to the left, people just don’t trust the guy. When you refuse to sing the national anthem on top of that, it seals your fate.
Starfish PrimeFunnily enough we have a thoroughly unelected Prime Minister.
And yet she’d still comfortably beat Corbyn in any election.
Starfish PrimeYeah, but that’s the problem.. Whatever you do, it’s always takeaway.. Sandwiches, paistries, chips… Quick quick, you don’t find time for proper meal & enjoyment.. It might be good for productivity but then you wonder why your cuisine $uck$…
True, but beef or mixed grill is found pretty much everywhere, starting from NZ, ending down in Chile, there’s nothing genuinely British about it, at least not in my understanding. I know that Brits have traditionally very good cattle (about 2.2mil), no doubt, and that Wellington thing looks marvelous, but compare that with Argies with their 11.8 mil annual yield of the finest beef you can find and you get the idea..
But next time I look for sirloin, I will try to get some produced in good ole Britain, that’s a promise.. 🙂
Well, no offense here, mate, but ask me again which woman would I prefer to date.. A French or an English one? 🙂 Maybe that rationing has some deeper idea behind it.. 🙂
Where do you think NZ got it from?
A Chilean mixed grill is completely different.
Chilean
http://img06.foodily.net/img/235×235/5b8cc0482ada.jpg
British
http://lilinhaangel.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/016.jpg
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/74/e7/00/the-mixed-grill-l18-95.jpg
Different herbs and the stuff served with it make it different. E.g. mushrooms, thyme and red wine sauce. I mean, it’s like saying pigeons aren’t particularly French, because there are plenty of them crapping on the streets of London.
Around one third of the venison purchased here is also exported.
Dude, there are fat people everywhere. Some people just eat too much and do too little. Hungary is apparently the worst in the EU for being overweight. But you’re still looking at >75% of the population not overweight for the UK. All depends on the woman in question. If you can’t find a single woman you like in the UK, then women might not be your thing.
Starfish PrimeNah.. no matter which side I am looking at, I cannot consider it as traditionally British. Brits weren’t the first, nor do they produce most of em, nor is a steak a part of their national identity just as Asado is in Argentina. Britain stays for Fish & Chips, Black Pudding or Pasty..
That’s takeaway stuff, not restaurant food. Fish and chips is like our version of MacDonalds FFS.
Beef is a major dish present at pretty much any British restaurant. We even have guards called Beefeaters. Is a Sunday Roast not British? Turkey – traditional British Christmas dinner. Mixed grill is also a cornerstone of any British restaurant or pub menu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_cuisine
Food rationing policies, put in place by the British government during wartime periods of the 20th century,[5] are said to have been the stimulus for British cuisine’s poor international reputation.[4]
Of course if we’d just not fought the war, we could have enjoyed better food with the Nazis. Having said that it looks like French rationing continued long after WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_cuisine
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Cuisine_Trois_%C3%A9toiles.jpg
No wonder they surrendered, probably too hungry to fight.:D Still hungry after those, try these:
http://lilinhaangel.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/016.jpg
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/74/e7/00/the-mixed-grill-l18-95.jpg
Starfish Primehttp://www.military-quotes.com/forum/australias-over-shoulder-asraam-has-t72998.html
“Australia’s upgraded Hornets are equipped with HMDs but the October test was carried out using offboard sensor data supplied by a second F/A-18 via its Link 16 datalink. “
G’bye 😀
October 2008, March 2009, two separate tests. And by the statement above it’s clear that HMD could be used if needed as the second test demonstrates.
The test was carried out in October 2008…
“A ‘simple’ helmet shot is less impressive these days,” one programme official told Jane’s . “The RAAF firing shows how you’d want to use the missile for real, using data fusion and 360-degree sensor coverage for targeting.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/raaf-kills-over-the-shoulder-asraam-05323/
Mar 09, 2009…
Key advances have been made in short-range air-to-air missiles and work well in combination with helmet-mounted sights.
Starfish Primeyou proved nothing at all about range.
Show me a MICA 5+km OTS shot at sea level.
Starfish PrimeStarfish, that is even more true of the Conservative Party – much more so, in fact.
Yes but they aren’t the ones with an entirely unelectable leader. As I said, there was a rule to balance it, which was having a minimum of 25% support from fellow elected MPs but it was overlooked and the farce allowed to continue.
Starfish PrimeThe principle of making employers pay sufficient wages to ensure sustainable tax take (as well as ensuring a sustainable retail and service economy and the avoidance of exploitation of ‘low cost’ workers) is a fundamental principal of the left, not the right.
How is the EU subscription socialist? Whether right or wrong, how is it socialist?
Now, I do see your point about ‘Far right’ being used to describe anti-immigration feeling, justifying ‘far-left’ to mean ok with immigration. You’re right – it ain’t necessarily so at all. What has happened is the far right bodies who are jumping on the xenophobic bandwagon are not singing from the same hymn sheet as the British politcal ‘Right’ at all (not any more – see earlier comments on the liberalisation of the country over the decades) – they don’t have any underpinning of socio-economic or political thought (something that implies a degree a liberalism in terms of openess to ideas) the way the British right, left, or very particularly the far-left do – so they are not a comparable diametric opposite at all.
I disagree. It’s a taxpayer-funded subsidisation of low income employers who are bringing in immigrants. Socialism for employers.
Well there are two definitions of left and right. One is communism vs capitalism and the other is liberalism vs authoritarianism and it’s the latter which has shifted disproportionately to the left, such that anything in the centre is labelled ‘far-right’.
Starfish PrimeAnd, as I’m sure you are aware, income tax ramps-up rapidly from zero for low salaries and the ‘average’ person in the United Kingdom doesn’t earn the ‘average’ wage, they earn less than the average wage (offset by a relatively small number of very high earners); I wonder what the comparison would be for ‘non-migrants’? I’m willing to bet it would be very similar (if not worse)!
So, according to that Telegraph article, only the top 40% of ‘households’ (and I appreciate it is households not employees here) pay any net tax above zero.
Given, from your own figures, that 75% of employed immigrants pay above net zero tax, then these immigrants cannot all be employed in low-income jobs, and most of them, surely, are at least of some tax benefit to the country. Plus, and this is really the important point, many of these low-income jobs need doing and cannot be filled by our own population who are simply unwilling to do them.
There’s plenty who earn more than £27k/year in the UK. And the rapid ramp up you mention is exactly the problem. A8 migrants pay very low tax and as low income earners, they’re also entitled to more benefits, so the net picture is even worse still.
Haha, your link is assessing the cost of everything – benefits, use of healthcare, education system, roads, GP surgeries, Dentists, police etc. The migrant figure only looks at tax+NI vs in-work benefits, that’s the difference. Nobody earning £39,000/year is getting £12,000/year in direct benefits, I don’t know what planet you’re living on.
In the case of a couple where both partners work in minimum wage jobs, they would pay in a total £28 net, however, if they have two children they could receive a net benefit of £380 a week.
It’s fairly obvious that if we keep taking in people earning well below the national average, the national average will be dragged down and the tax revenue per person will reduce, making a per-person expansion of public services impossible.
Starfish PrimeTyphoon is perhaps one of the worst of the 4.5 and 5th gen jets on range. Behind the Rafale, F-35, Sukhoi, Gripen-E.. etc only ahead of the old Gripen, J-10 and MiG-29
It’s due to get larger tanks and conformals eventually but range isn’t really that important anyway. The only real problem wrt range is the landing gear vs inner pylon loads problem.
Starfish PrimeAt the risk of re-railing this thread, it does seem interesting that the Rafale has significantly longer range than the F-35 (896 Nmi compared with 751 Nmi in air-to-air configuration).
On the other hand, that’s with the Rafale using 3 external fuel tanks. The source doesn’t actually say what type of fuel tank was used, but it’s likely either the 2000 L tank or the 1250 L supersonic tank. I’m guessing the former is more likely. You can see what they look like here. The link says that the three fuel tanks weigh an additional 14,700 lb, which seems kind of high to me since 3×524 gallons (at 6.8 lb per gallon) means 10,690 lb of fuel, so it’s saying there’s an additional 4000 lb of weight for the fuel tanks and their associated pylons. Not sure if that’s accurate, or if something’s wrong with my assumptions. The Rafale carries 10,300 lb of fuel internally according to the link. By comparison, the F-35 gets its 751 Nmi range from 18,250 lb of internal fuel.
However, nothing in life is free; assuming about 1500 lb of missiles (since it’s air-to-air config) and pilot, this means the Rafale weighs about 48,000 lb at takeoff, with a max thrust of 34,000 lb, for a thrust/weight ratio of 0.71, compared to the F-35 which would be at a weight of about 49,000 lb but a thrust of 43,000 lb so a higher thrust/weight ratio of 0.88. Their wing loadings would also be similar, the Rafale at 98 lb/ft^2 compared with the F-35 at 106 lb/ft^2. The Rafale also presumably won’t be supercruising or pulling 9 G’s with those fuel tanks.
And of course to give you an idea of the F-35’s range, the Typhoon with 3 fuel tanks (presumably 1000 L each) had pretty close to the same combat radius as the F-35 does on internal fuel: 747 Nmi versus 751 Nmi.
It would’ve been interesting to compare the Rafale using 2 fuel tanks instead, since that would probably give a range similar to the F-35’s on internal fuel, but of course Lockheed did the comparison so it was their choice.
Given the range delta vs the Typhoon, it’s guaranteed to be the 2000L tanks.
Starfish PrimeThe Asraam and the like are obsolete.
Now that HMD and modern IR missile are widespread, going to the merge is far too dangerous. The MICA IR is the right solution. You can fire it well before the ASRAAM and other short range IR missiles and in the age on connected battlefield and sensor fusion you can even fire it backward at the press of a button with no need to tear your neck Under high G looking for an evasive target which make it kinda tricky…
The F35 has the same approach in one of its video advert…”Let the missile do the turn” and “escape the merge”.
Except we’ve just proved that the ASRAAM has equal or better range.
You think that the targets in the rear hemisphere can’t be datalinked from AWACS, ground radar or other fighters for ASRAAM too? The difference is that the ASRAAM can do it without that help if need be, the MICA and Rafale can’t.
Starfish Primei’m not curious in the slightest to find out what a snail taste like,
but the french invented bearnaise sauce and that accomplishment alone beats all english dishes put together
You’re forgetting the full English breakfast. The mother of all breakfasts. Compare that to a buttered croissant if you dare.
Starfish PrimeThe problem with the system is that the Labour membership is only a small percentage of the overall electorate, even of those that vote Labour.
They had a rule to balance this out (minimum support from those with seats) but it was ignored.
Starfish PrimeAll low income…..does that include the one in three doctors working for the NHS?
Well, in that case, immigration must be mostly high income; the national average for employees in the United Kingdom is that about 50% pay less than zero net tax.
Well, that would be a miracle! Have you been talking to Donald Trump’s campaign manager?
The average income of A8 employees is £8/hour, as already linked on this thread in the past, and that is the main source of immigration.
Care to prove that. The average salary in the UK pays 3 times more gross tax+NI than A8 migrants – FACT!
I was unable to speak to Hillary’s because Satan was busy.
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