Thanks dh83.
Does anyone know what colours G-ABEE wore?
I also have an earlier photo I have pinched from eBay of G-ABEE, with a different configuration for the windscreens and the main undercarriage. I am not sure if I will rebuild G-ABEE to this, or the later configuration and colour scheme.
An interesting photo dh83! Is it the same Bessoneau hangar at White Waltham?
I have a very similar photo here, presumably at the same location.
I love the second photo with the WWI Bessoneau canvas hangar in the background. Any ideas where/when it was taken?
Would look also exceedingly good in one of my Avro Avians!
See this thread.:)
Hi All,
It’s about time I updated this thread.
October last year I was fortunate to be able to purchase and bring home Avro Avian Mk 4M G-ABEE, from Naracoorte, South Australia.
G-ABEE had been imported into Australia, IIRC, in the early 1980s by Albert Murrell of Mt Gambier, owner at that time of two other Avian Mk IV Ms and was “restored” and used as a prop for the telemovie “The Lancaster Miller Affair” (I think it was released as “Victims of Passion” in the UK). It has remained in the guise of “G-EBTU” from the movie ever since.
I believe G-ABEE was the last British registered Avian to fly, before it was withdrawn from use in the mid 1950s. It was recovered by members of The Aeroplane Collection and parts from it were used in the restoration of G-EBZM, a wooden fuselage Mk IV, which is now on display at the Manchester Museum of Science and Industry.
G-ABEE was assembled briefly before I came to pick it up…

Here it is being loaded onto the trailer for the trip home. I was very fortunate to be able to loan this trailer from Gary Chadwick of Kingaroy, which is about a 300km drive north west of Brisbane. Without Gary’s kind support, this recovery would’ve been immeasurably harder and more expensive.


The fellow on the left is the owner of the hangar where G-ABEE had been stored, Dave Schneider. On the right is the former owner, Michael Gruetzner.
These two fellows were a tremendous help with loading the aircraft onto the trailer. 🙂
Finally, all loaded and ready to go for a 2200km trip home…

Now, while the aircraft looks complete, only the steel fuselage frame, the tailplane and fin are original Avian. The rest, including the wooden engine, were mocked up for the movie. The cockpits are bare and there a a lot of the internal fittings missing. However, it is a good starting point and will provide a lot of information for the other Mk IV M in my possession, VH-UVR.
Things I am looking for:
An upright Gipsy, preferably a Mk II, but a Mk I will also do. A Mk III, although it was inverted, would be good for spares.
Mk IV Altimeters
Mk V Air Speed Indicators
A Mk V Tachometer
I would also like to see any photos of G-ABEE during its time with The Aeroplane Collection. 🙂
In my very brief correspondence with Graham I too, found him to be a true gentleman. A great loss to the community. My condolences to his family and friends.
Correct James.
To answer Dave’s original question, I am not sure if it is VH-UQE or VH-UVX. Both are with Geoff Davis in Adelaide and are “airworthy”, but I do not think they have flown for some time. Yes, the aircraft featured was returned to stock condition after the movie.
I’m home now James! 🙂
Ok, now from the official book of words…
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Page 4, under the General Remarks…
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I’m going to assume the DH.60 series would be similar.
I do know one of Albert Murrell’s Avians (I’m not sure if it was VH-UQE or VH-UVX – both now residing with Geoff Davis in Adelaide) was modified to look like a WWI German two seater, complete with gun ring in rear seat position, for the movie “The Lighthorsemen” back in 1987.
Here are a few photos I have pinched of it being flown from the front seat from this thread.
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Enjoy!
Brought back from the dead whilst trying to find suitable pictures for another thread! 🙂
It’s an Avro Avian Mk IV M, suitably modified.
I am now going to shamelessly “steal” said pictures…
I never cease to be amazed at what those guys figured out back then with nothing more than pencil, paper, maybe a slide rule and a truck load of imagination.
Too much for my wooden head to figure out!
While we are here talking about BTH magnetoes, I’m looking for BTH SC-7s for the AS Genet Major. 🙂
A cunning plan, except one needs to be able to time the points to coincide with the passing of each pick up on the dizzy. 😉
Rather than trying to reinvent the wheel and attempt to manufacture a distributor cap, I would talk to these guys…
http://www.antiquedistributorcaps.com/distcaps.htm
I’m afraid I am going to disappoint you ausflyboy. 🙁
The Canadian drawings I have do not have the P8 Compass mount.
I do have a Tiger Moth instrument panel (bare) *somewhere* here in my shed. It is not where I thought I had it and I have just blown a couple of hours searching for it. 🙁
A small consolation prize – the part number is H.37068. 🙂
I’ll see what I have at home.