Here is a recent story in English. The pic provided is of a German F-125 class, so the writer must be assuming that the end product will resemple one? Anyway:

TF-2000 Frigate Moves Forward

ANKARA – Turkey has received responses to its January request for information from several foreign and domestic companies seeking to help build six anti-air frigates to a local design.

Turkey’s defense procurement agency, the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM), obtained information on directed infrared countermeasures, electric generation and distribution systems, heating-ventilating-air conditioning, integrated platform management systems, laser directed/kinetic energy weapons, main propulsion systems and the naval gun system.

Officials declined to identify the companies that responded to the SSM’s request.

The program is dubbed the TF-2000, or Turkish Frigate for the 21st Century. Officials expect the program to cost Ankara about $3 billion in today’s prices; it will be completed in 10 to 12 years. The first ship is to enter service in 2018, one defense analyst said.

The program, originally planned in the late 1990s and shelved during the 2001 economic crisis, was resuscitated in 2006 by Turkey’s top procurement body, the Defense Industry Executive Committee. The program was trimmed to six frigates from the proposed eight.

Officials now say the program has solid financing available.

The Navy’s Turkish Naval Institute is working on the design, the country’s first homegrown plan for a frigate. The program aims to bolster the Navy’s air defense and operational capabilities using mostly domestic assets.

Turkey’s Tuzla military shipyard in the country’s northwest will build the six vessels, which will be equipped with state-of-the-art anti-missile and anti-aircraft air defense missile systems as well as other weapons.

Heavy foreign involvement and a large amount of technology transfer is expected in the program.

Naval warfare helicopters and UAVs also are planned to be deployed on the TF-2000s, which will displace more than 6,000 tons.

The Turkish Navy now operates 19 frigates, including U.S. Oliver Hazard Perry- and Knox-class and German Meko-class warships. Some of the older Knox-class frigates will be retired soon.

Turkey – expected to spend slightly more than $4 billion for defense procurement in 2010 – in recent years has focused on Navy programs, particularly their local design and development wherever possible.

Other top Navy projects include joint manufacture with Germany of six modern submarines and mostly local development and production of up to 12 corvettes.

The first ship in the Milgem-type corvette program, the TCG Heybeliada, was put to sea in late 2008 and is planned to be commissioned in 2011. Milgem, as a national naval development program, is seen as a precursor of the TF-2000.

Source: http://trdefence.com/?p=135

Thanks for the info niksi, personally I could not watch the video due to some plugin issues and I don’t speak Italian. I was under the impression that both pilots were seriously injured, that’s good news if only one was. I guess this some sort of “credential” (so to speak) for the airframe’s robustness and survivablity, I mean, dropping nearly like stone from 15,000 feet cannot be that peaceful. In the second pic, both of the pilots’ seats appear intact.

I’m not aware of the results of any similar accidents with other types such as AH-64s, but I understand most AH have reinforced landing gear capable to withstand near crash-landings.

What threat is going to dogfight the F-35, that the F-35’s going to be unaware of? If the threat is close enough to dogfight, then it’s going to be detected by the DAS, and likely have a missile enroute.

If the threat approaches from a direction not expected, or stays where he isn’t visible, then the F-35 will simply not have 6-8 seconds of early warning.

Sens isn’t disagreeing with me.

Yes, he is. He explicitly stated “…there are good reasons the F-35 is armed with only 2 AAMs” and then you come stating “No, it can be armed with more”, spoiling his fantasies.

2 AAMs if it’s also carrying 2 JDAMs. 4-6 AAMS if it isn’t carrying A2G ordinance.

That’s fine by me, eventhough there is still no solid fact suggesting anything like this, only concepts and speculation. But never mind, let’s assume that it will take 6 AAMs internally some time in the future with some modifications.

This still doesn’t explain (in fact it even contradicts) the “good reasons” Sens mentioned, only to admit later on that actually he has no idea what he’s talking about.

So, if F-35 carries only 2 AAMs, it’s because either they’re more than enough or because there are some “unscpecified unknown good reasons”, and it’s super cool as it is. But if it will eventually carry more than 2, it’s because 2 are not enough and with more it becomes even more bad a$$ mathafacka’ and -again- it’s super cool as such.

F-35.
It’s soooooo cool. :rolleyes:

Six is more than enough. The F-15s got 4 AIM-7s and the F-22A got 6 AIM-120s for good reasons

Which are…?

BTW, latest F-15Cs carry six AIM-120s. Is it for good reasons too? Also, Both F-15 and F-22 carry 8 AAMs in total, surely, for good reasons as well? OTOH, Both Su-27/30 and Su-35BM are certified for 12 AAMs, so these guys are either insane (no “good reasons” that is) or follow different dogma/tactics?

when F-35A is back to 4 AIM-120s. 😉

Is it?

Last time I checked, it only carries two AAMs, both BVR ones with just concepts of carrying more internally some time in the future. It’s not that bad really, I’m not pointing that out as a complain. On the contrary, it’s perfectly understandable. I mean, look at the F-111, or the A-7, they both carry just two AIM-9s.