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February 9, 2010 at 9:38 pm in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2389757

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Great work in proving your point Ken.

Add to the fact someone postet here earlier, that the wing root is not the best suited place to park the MLG due to internal wing structure support/strenght.

That is irrelevant. As someone else posted here earlier, there have been examples of fighters, delta ones no less, whoose wheel well is located exactly at the wing root.

Great work indeed by the way.

Honestly I think it’s a quite bold statement 😀 I hope so because my country have S-300 PMUxx but it’s quite hard to believe honestly 🙂
I think S-300 may be able to detect F-22/B-2 only with good strategy and careful combination of radar system 😉

My country too operates S-300PMU1s, albeit in an anorthodox way, so I find it hard to believe.

S-300 alone or any other hi-SAM system is useless by itself IMHO.

February 9, 2010 at 7:26 pm in reply to: New Hellenic Air Force Videos #2389865

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Some nice shots from the training of two pilots in performing aerobatics manuevers. The birds are F-16 Block 52+ from 340 Mira Dioxis Vomvardismou “Alepou” (Fighter Bomber SQN “Fox”) of 115 Combat Wing in Crete. Looks like something nice is being prepared for next November’s HAF Open Day. 🙂

And here is a recent video on the same issue:

Source

February 9, 2010 at 4:28 pm in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2389921

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You said “So, the SH is a… VLO design? Well, that’s news to me. Last time I checked:” then used a shot down a Super Hornet’s intake to attempt to support the implication that it doesn’t have reduced RCS features. If that’s not the case then exactly what WERE you trying to prove by your comment and picture? (I predict a BS non-answer coming. :diablo: )

Look at the picture again. Do you see those huge (repeat: HUGE) fuel tanks hanging? You don’t see them? Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot to mention it, you need to remove your black glasses beforehand and actually want to contribute to the discussion rather than being a know-it-all smart @$$.

You should try the coffee Otaku recommended, you never know. :rolleyes:

Please stay serious, that pic was not send to show us the inlet-blocker to bolster the claim, that the SH is a semi-stealth design, because it does field some related features.

So, you know what I was thinking when I posted the picture? Wow, I’m impressed. :rolleyes: 😀

The point of the picture was to show that SH is not a VLO airplane, was never designed as one. I used it, because it was the first picture that came to mind, since I came across it quite recently in another discussion, where, likewise is not cited for its blades, but for the intake’s size and shape.

“The F/A-18E/F’s radar cross section was reduced greatly from some aspects, mainly the front and rear. The design of the engine inlets reduces the aircraft’s frontal radar cross section. The alignment of the leading edges of the engine inlets is designed to scatter radiation to the sides. Fixed fanlike reflecting structures in the inlet tunnel divert radar energy away from the rotating fan blades.“

There has been an extensive debate as to whether the SH is stealth, semi-stealth, partly-stealth or whatever new term Boeing’s PR team has fantasised to promote the thing:

What is to believe in Super Hornet propaganda?

You’ll find all your answers there, though you can still believe whatever you want. But pls stay on topic. And on topic: comparing PAK FA with the SH is just a sign that arguments are depleted and panic is at hand. Not referring to you, read previous posts.

February 9, 2010 at 11:58 am in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390062

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You typed it. You posted the picture. Denying it ain’t going to help you, it’s right there for all to see. Just makes you look dumb trying to.

Nope. Didn’t type it, didn’t say it. Unfortunately for you, it is indeed there and everyone can see it: I don’t say anything about engine blades, that’s just your brain fantasising.

Like I said, do keep up, you are most entertaining.

February 9, 2010 at 11:48 am in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390069

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That’s a radar blocker you’re looking at genius, not a fan blade. :rolleyes:

Sorry to spoil your fantasies genious, but you’re quoting the wrong post. :rolleyes:

Do keep up.

February 9, 2010 at 8:21 am in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390204

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He didn’t claim that it’s a US site, but he said that we only need to go to F-16.net to get an estimate of the general reaction to the PAK FA of the US military aviation community. Trying to find US military aviation community on F 16.net…There are only 1 or2 fomer US F 16 pilots that post. BTW their positions are very balanced towards nonUS stuff.

I think it’s highly representative. But you can believe whatever you want.

Agree. But if those posters said that the prototype is comparable with the SH in RCS, it may have a point.

OTOH, the final product (the oprational T 50 or whatever they name it) will probaly be more VLO than the SH. I don’t know about F 22/F 35 though.

So, the SH is a… VLO design? Well, that’s news to me. Last time I checked:

Why are you so agressive towards people that don’t share your opinions or preferences?

Oh, come on! That was not aggressive! I didn’t say anything about drugs! I only talked about coffee, is that really so bad? OK then, I retract and rephrase: Your… tea was not too good this morning was it? :diablo:

February 9, 2010 at 8:00 am in reply to: Greece vs Israel scenario #2390207

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This is probably the most retarded speculation thread I’ve read in this forum. 🙁

February 9, 2010 at 7:34 am in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390212

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A better informed person would know that F16. net it’s not a US site. It’s a Belgian site! It’s true that most of the people posting there are F 16 fans, but most of them are not from US! So goood luck in finding people from the “US military aviation community” on F 16.net…:p

I don’t see him claiming it’s an american site. Do you? (of course, it wouldn’t be the first time you attribute people things they never said)

Also, it doesn’t exactly take for too much luck to find such people in its pages. A better informed person would know.

Now, why the “US military aviation community” reaction to T 50 was more moderate than Russian one? Why they didn’t start to tremble in panic when they find out about the terrible news of the first flight (or are there already 2?) of a prototype? Maybe because they know very well the pains of introducing in operational service a new (stealth) plane…

Being moderate is one thing (and a good thing IMHO); Being stupid is another. Many people in f-16.net are moderate and that’s nice. But there are others who don’t see beyond their Uncle Sam’s noses, like the guy comparing the PAK FA only with the Super Hornet in terms of… stealth. That is just that: Stupid.

Your coffee was not too good this morning, was it? :p

February 9, 2010 at 7:07 am in reply to: Phantom Upgrades #2390243

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I was reading about the THK the other day and I came across a little blurb on wikipedia that mentioned that TAI was upgrading Turkey’s regular F-4E’s (non-2020 variants) for…and I quote…”optimization in air-to-air capabilities.”

Anyone know anything about this? I mentions that 48 will be upgraded which is curious because I believe at one point in time IAI was trying to get a bid to upgrade 48 more F-4’s in addition to the 54 that went through the 2020 upgrade. Obviously, this fell through, but I felt the need to ask and see if anyone had heard anything about additional Turkish F-4 upgrades.

Surprised to hear this. As of 2006, the upgrade program for these 48 was existent but frozen…

http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEntityID=728195

…and as of May 2009, non upgraded F-4Es begun phased out:

“172 sqn operating with non-upgraded F-4Es disbanded”

http://strategy-geopolitics4.blogspot.com/2009/05/f-4e-phantom.html

I remember also reading a while back that the RF-4E fleet would be updated.

Can anyone comment on further F-4E upgrades as well as the status of the RF-4E upgrade?

May 7, 2009:

First modernisedRF-4E Phantom II of 113 sqn delivered. The program is about 18 airframes, begun in 2005 by turkish companies ASELSAN and ΜiΚES. Other than structural reinforcement, it includes replacing nav and comm avionics and installation of a new self defence system of turkish origin.

http://strategy-geopolitics4.blogspot.com/2009/05/rf-4e.html (turkish newspaper cited)

February 9, 2010 at 12:34 am in reply to: Rafale M a possibility for RN if F-35 axed (Times article) #2007878

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m2k was given as an example of the type of aircraft they may propose if they gad to remove spectra… and reopening the production lines for the m2k would still be easier for the french than selling the navalized f-16s, no? 😀

Agreed, but there is at least one “naval” F-16, it was in TV series “Supercarrier”. Presented as a commies’ MiG whose pilot wanted to defect (what an original scenario, no?) but was short of fuel, so it was directed to land to the nearest airstrip, the USS Georgetown. It touched down really nicely, but the pilot got spooked and ejected.

So, a naval F-16, hell yeah, it’s possible, in fantasy anyway! :diablo:

and, talking about rafale numbers, if they’re almost 300 in french services a single sale should suffice to reach 300 aircraft, don’t you think?

Well, if Kuwait buys the claimed 12, that makes 286+12=298. Still two missing. :dev2:

Seriously, Rafale has all the perspectives to potentially surpass 300, but it remains to be seen. There is also another scenario, that many potential export customers could be offered early AdA airframes, so that AdA receives only the newest ones. UK did it, Germany will do it, the Italians also try to get rid of initial T1s, the Sweds also have leased some of their own Gripens, so, France could also do it… Will not be a surprise at all. Everyone sells second hand these days for many reasons.

Certainly not implying that RN would be offered cocooned Rafale M F1s, though it would certainly be… fun! :dev2::dev2::dev2:

February 8, 2010 at 9:25 pm in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390533

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Some boards are already pushing 225+ pages in a single thread.

A good idea might be User Control Panel —> Edit Options —> Posts per Page —> 40. Should minimise the number of pages.

February 8, 2010 at 9:16 pm in reply to: European UCAVs Take Shape #2390564

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I think it’s time to revive this thread. Apart from Mantis flying last year, what news is there? Any updates on when Taranis will fly? Any news on progress with Neuron, or any other projects?

HAI: Επιτυχημένη δοκιμή από την ΕΑΒ Feb 09, 2009

Κατασκευή Στελθ από την ΕΑΒ Feb 10, 2009

^^Basically they say that HAI delivered on time the program’s engine nozzles, or the fumes extraction system to be accurate, and that system was consequently tested with full success by Dassault.

Saab: Saab launches manufacturing work on Neuron air vehicle Jun 03, 2009

Northrop Grumman (Not quite expected, hah?): Northrop Grumman to Supply Attitude and Heading Reference Systems for the NEURON (Nov 9, 2009)

February 8, 2010 at 8:26 pm in reply to: Rafale M a possibility for RN if F-35 axed (Times article) #2007884

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if they sell the aircraft with spectra operational to some remote country, and not propose it to the RN (providing UK shows some interest in that deal), that’s as well as not trying to sell anything to the british. SPECTRA is a vital part of the rafale concept, and without it, they could just as well propose “navalized” M2000 instead.

While your argument makes perfect sense, I find it hard to believe that the RN would receive the “same” SPECTRA, RBE etc, etc, etc with those that AdA and MN receive.

The M2K is not in production since 2003.

About the number of rafales flying, in 2008, the total number of rafales in french air forces, AdlA and MN, (C, B and M variants) was planned to reach a total of 286 aircraft in the end, number which, even if reduced, shouldn’t fall so much lower… now, if brasil deal goes forward, things are likely to improve for other markets, and adding to that the british deal we talk about (considering that if they are in RN service, there is a british deal 😉 ) rafales should be able to top the 300 aircraft flying without difficulty

Appearently only rich Arab states have shown the most serious interest for the Rafale so far, and yet not export has materialised. hopefully this bad record will brake with Brazil but still…

February 8, 2010 at 7:51 am in reply to: Rafale M a possibility for RN if F-35 axed (Times article) #2007935

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Did anyone stop to think that Sea Gripen publicity was a political balloon? Saab and BAe have been more or less collaborating for forty years. Maybe, just maybe, Sea Gripen is driven by the British need for affordable air wings. Sea Gripen is better than cancelling a flattop.

Actually yes, though apparently some people fell from the skies…

As I said in the first post, a potential Sea Gripen, though not operational as of now and perhaps equally or more expensive in the long run, would have far more british participation than any Rafale. After the F-35, would be the “next best thing”.

So what equipment or weapons does the RN still have that it would want to add to the Rafale? They’ve already been stripped bare by the RAF, and given the unhappy Joint Force Harrier experience, they might actually be favorable to having less than 100% commonality with the RAF.

Even if the MoD mandates commonality with the RAF, there’s only a handful of RAF equipment that would be really interesting to integrate on Rafale:

– Litening designator pod
– AMRAAM
– ASRAAM
– Brimstone
– Raptor reconnaissance pod
– Helmet mounted sight

Of these, only 2 (Brimstone and HMS) would bring a real operational advantage over what’s currently integrated on Rafale, but I’ve included the others because the stocks already exist in the RAF so the RN might be able to get a hand on a few for “free”.

Everything else would just be a waste of time. With 300+ Rafales flying there should be no worry about spare parts shortages for the French avionics and engines. Replacing them with Typhoon equipment would be extremely costly and would bring precious little in terms of operational improvements or cost synergies. As for the comms and interfaces, they are already all NATO compatible so won’t need any modifications.

So you think they will merely want weapons and external pods? In such a case, these would not take any considerable amount of time. However I doubt that they would be willing to buy, and french would be willing to sell, the whole set of its avionics. I could be wrong, but I just can’t see Thales giving away some SPECTRA sets to BAE just like that.

British industry would have to be involved imho. If not anything else, for appeasing the public oppinion over buying something not british. For what I know, they could even ask for EJ-200 integration. Don’t know if it’s possible, but I would certainly love to see that…

Anyway, this is pure speculation, so…

Just a footnote, there are not 300 Rafales flying, and personally I doubt there will ever be, even including potential exports.

February 8, 2010 at 12:51 am in reply to: Rafale M a possibility for RN if F-35 axed (Times article) #2007961

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As for the Rafale its a great ‘carrier-based multi-role fighter for its size, weight and capability! Add to this it is already in French Naval service and carrier compatible = big savings in both R&D and time in entering service!

I doubt it. It’s a great carrier fighter for french carriers. Your point would only make sense if the RN were to procure Rafales of the same configuration with the MN. But most certainly they would want to inject some of their own equipment and weapons which would… cost in terms of both money and time.
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