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  • in reply to: Sorting Out The Percival Gulls #865171
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    Can anyone help me to locate some accurate 3 view drawings of the Gull 6? I need drawings with fuse and wheel spat sections etc. Any help would be much appreciated as I am having a model of Jean Battens Gull made….

    in reply to: Nyborg glider #948932
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    Hi Paul,

    If you are interested, I have just picked up some 8mm and 16mm film of the Nyborg. There is also a few colour slides as well, which were Mr Nyborgs collection, as the old box bears his name and address.

    I do not know what is on the films, however the 16mm reel is 350 feet of film, whilst the smaller film is around 45 feet.

    You can PM me if you are interested in finding out more….

    SF

    in reply to: Eric “Winkle” Brown #1068088
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    Hi David,

    Fair enough, I understand completely. Thanks very much for your very kind help to date anyway, its been much appreciated.

    Bruce

    in reply to: Eric “Winkle” Brown #1068747
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    Done!

    Took your point Nick!

    Unfortunately it doesnt appear to have changed the lead title on the forum page though.

    Bruce 🙂

    in reply to: Eric “Winkle” Brown #1068883
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    Thanks David,

    I have given them a shot.

    Failing that, do you personally know him, if so, do you ever get to see him?

    Bruce

    in reply to: EON Olympia 2b #1127404
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    Now now, dont be like that, its not a race…besides Andrews Oly was Wally Kahns old machine, so she has class!

    Well done on getting a nice glider. (We are looking at one to save on our group as well, and have an EoN Baby that we are resucing as well).

    Spot Ya at one of the Rallies next year! :dev2:

    in reply to: EON Olympia 2b #1127681
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    F.B.

    Good to see that things are progressing well and she will be residing at Southdown. Has the Olympia of Andrew’s arrived from Poland yet?

    SF:diablo:

    Alertkin, yes EoN made Horsa cockpits. One of the workers told me of how they used to use some fo the old furniture lorries to take them from the factory.

    in reply to: EON Olympia 2b #1128782
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    Quote:- S-F: EoN wartime also built 190 wooden Walrus II hulls for Saro, assembled at Weybridge and Cowes.

    Hi Alertkin,

    This is very interesting as I had never come across this during my reseach into EoN, nor did anyone mention it that I had talked to. I got my figures from some of the incomplete old EoN minutes, local newspapers and a few odds and sods that were lying in archives. EoN were subcontracted to Airspeed throughout the war, and the baulk of thier wartime work came through them.

    Where did you get your info from as it is all very much of interest to me.

    Thanks for the info,

    SF:diablo:

    Avion, Roy used a lot of Harold Holswrorth’s writings. Harold wroked there during the war. I also have quite a bit of stuff that Harold wrote as well. My stuffs all from archives and minutes. I was in contact with Roy early on in my reseach, as his website is very good. To view the link:- http://www.chilton-aircraft.co.uk/nuacinfo.html

    in reply to: EON Olympia 2b #1130120
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    Avion ancien, you are on the right track. Chiltons were looking to put the type into production after the initial Dudley Hiscox Oly was built. (This was started in 1944!)

    Just after the war they placed an order for 50 sets of wings with Elliotts, but the price came back as being too expensive. This was around the time of the accident that killed Dalrymple who was one of the directors of the company.
    Ward (the other director) practically lost all heart with aircraft as a result, and the company were just getting into other areas of production that were showing promise.

    Horace Buckingham at Elliotts was having a full-blown set to with the Board of Trade, (they had forgotten that the war was over) as he had been refused timber quota’s to go back into their pre-war trade of furniture.
    So as a way of keeping his workers gainfully employed, (his workers were after all, experianced in aircraft production during the war having built over 700 Oxford fuselages, Horsa nose sections and subframes, and metal spitfire parts) he brought the production rights from Chiltons as they were in teh process of trying to get the Oly through the Air Registration boards requirements to get the type certificate.

    Horace used his aircraft licences as 1 way of keeping his timber quotas up, and it is probably fair to say, never really viewed the venture with a serious long-term solution for the hundreds of workers Elliotts employed. He viewed it no differently from building a couple of hundred wardrobes. Later glider production at Elliotts was often referred to as “Orices Obby”. One thing that probably did sway things for Elliotts to take over production, besides the timber quotas, was at the time there was serious talk of the Gliding events being held at the 1948 London Olympics, so there was an expectation that the type would sell well, and even before this, Slingsby’s advertised selling the type during the latter part of 1945, but in the end never did put it into production.

    Nuff said…

    SF:diablo:

    in reply to: EON Olympia 2b #1130356
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    Oly 1 had a skid without a wheel, the Oly 2 had a wheel and skid. Personally I like the Oly1 as it looks a little sleeker in the sky, but a pain on the ground.

    The picture of Lorne Welch Hugh Kendal and co is taken around the time when the first of the Olympias were flight tested at Redhill before being shipped off to thier new owners. There are a lot of Charles Brown photos in the archives at Hendon.

    Anon, I have a high resloution copy of the photo that you have posted. My guess is that it is Ivory Cream, as the EoN logo with the word “aircraft” only just shows up on my photo when I blow it up. As far as I am aware, this script was always in white. The only other colour it could have been was Pastel green, but I think it is too light for that colour.

    SF

    in reply to: EON Olympia 2b #1130458
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    Hi Fournier Boy,

    I can confirm that the logo is correct for all the Olympia’s that came out of Elliotts doors. I have a lots of photos of the early production Olympia’s, and they all sport the EoN Logo that is posted on scale soaring. If you look a little closer there is a long thread about an event that we are trying to arrange for 2012 to coincide with the Olympics here, where we are hoping to stage a symbolic event with the Brit Olympias, Meises, Nord 2000’s, Hungarian Cinke’s, etc, and run the event close to the 1940 Olympic Gliding rules as I have all the old IOC/FAI rule book. Get the old girl ready because we want to see as many Olys as possible, and we also have the Europeans involved in trying to drum up some interest as we want participants from all over if possible.

    I can also give you help on any of the early technical and history of the Elliotts story as I have been researching the subject for some time now, as it is part of a what I hope one day will be a book about the Olympic Gliding story, so if you want more info, drop me an email.

    A note to Galdri, I would very much like to find out a bit more about the Icelandic Meises, do you have any contacts that maybe able to help?

    Lastly, I can also update you on the Skylark 4 BNK. She is still alive and well, and can be seen at our VGC Rallies flown by David Weekes.

    Happy mending!

    SF

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