EH 101 HEW…..
4 helicopters of the italian navy are in this standard althuogh not fully operative…
are pratically a standard asw eh 101 without dipping sonar and with a bigger radar of course…
Hi, i’ve read an article on an italian magazine regarding this class o patrol boat…
there were the same photos and schemaics…if you want i can pass you the italian version maybe with a english resume…send me a pm…
Italian involvement
Ok, i know that italy was really interested in the project..
The cruiser Giuseppe Garibaldi of the ’30’s was modified with 4 polaris tube and was used for some test lauch.
The following flag ship Vittorio Veneto was built with space to take some polaris tube but that space was used as a bulk storage, because the program was already cancelled; altough italy devoleped an icbm the alpha rocket that performed some sucessful launch in the 70’s (lauch performed on land not on ship altough there were program for a submarine use of them).
If you search on wiki you will find some info on the italian ship, in italian of course.
http://www.aereimilitari.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=2369
If i’ll find more i will post it..
But you are joking an aircraft need absolutely an apu…
If the integrated drive generator of one engine fails you can still flying safe and also dispacth the aicraft with a similar trouble, if you have not an apu and one idg fails you have an aircraft on ground since the idg replacement….
The APU does not only generate compressed air for conditioning and engine starting but also generate electric power for all the system even electric driven hydraulic pumps..
So if you lost one IDG when you are flying you can start the apu and carry on the mission…
But someone have worked for instance in an airline???
The aircraft have to fly always and more redundancy you have and more are the failure that the aircraft can sustain being still airworthiness…
The same concept are applied to the damage that can be taken in a warzone area…
This data was published on panorama a lot of years ago…………..
In regard of girotondini and pacifisti, they can think whatever they want……..
Are you sure? Rivolto was nevere used as homebase of AMX.
It’s the homebase of PAN if you have seen 3 amx on rivolto they were here only as fwd deploy.
On the other hand i agree that the budget of italian air force is really low (but this year it will be a small increase) but it’s not an unarmed forced.
For example in 1999 we dropped more than 2000 bombs/missile on kosovo.
A little out of topic……
I’ve heard somewhere that the bosnian army, had received all the stock of 36 OF-40 MBT built in italy in the 80’es for Abu Dhabi….
From what i know they were transferred in 1997.
Someone know if it’s the truth??
And if is it true they are still operative???
I know that is a little out of 3d but pls respond to me……….
Italy was not even conceived by the rusian for a simple reason.
Why spend division and aiplane try to conquering the padan’s plain.
After crossing the fortified region of friuli you will have to run all thru that plain and at the end you will find the alps that separate italy from france.
Italy will have more than 2-3 days to prepare the defebce since invasin force had to cross austria and/or yugoslavia.
Italy will be conquered after the soviets had won on teh german front….
So it doesn’t make sense for the soviets to distract forces from the main front.
But we have to consider also the french nuclear arsenal that probably could stop the soviet at the rhine becuase french declared openly that an invasion of france will bring to a strategical exchange of nuclear weapon….
Two weeks ago i read a magazine who was talking about a A-4AR and it claims that half of them are kept as storage/reserve so i don’t think that the argies urgently need a new fighter….
Cliff u will have some big problems with a nh 90 on visby corvette, otherwise the a 109 not fit all the role but is an honest lightweight helicopter.
To Funkycartel in belgium was a mistake of the 80’s that a lot of company in the world had done, tell me a company that produce miltary stuff that never “pushed” some govern to buy its products…
The almost finished cavour has a deck-edge elevator and a convntional one….
Few month ago i readed on an italian defence newspaper that if an italian production line will be setup it will produce also the netherland airplanes, and the dutch will receive the central maintenance facility.
Golli if you had problems with some modified powerboat in the 40’s u can’t claim that italian built ship are piece of junk….
The italian mtb were bulit at that time fort use in the med, probably in times of war there were so necessity of boat that finnish neither request modified version…
Italian minehunters are top class ships and don’t worry they keep the sea very well (for example a gaeta class is long 49m and large 9m).
And told to the leader of the Metalworkers’ Union that the finnish pendolino were modified and built in finland to meet finnish requirments…
Shiplover the airplane in the photo is not a korean T/A-50, but a taiwanese Ching Kuo….
Regarding the hook most military aircraft have it, it’s used for emergency arrest on runaway that have arrestor wire at the end, but is not capable as a naval hook..
The hook of this kind cannot resist the stress of naval landing are built as a one shot oppurtunity to stop the plane, in such case the structure must be seriusly controlled.
Whats the diffrence, the Cavour and the Buque de Proyección Estratégica are both 27,000 ton, amphibious carriers of simular dimentions. Seem pretty simular to me. Why design a all new 27,000 ton ship that already performs the same task?
The difference is that BPE is an amphibius ship that can operate harrier and jsf, is built whith commercial standard and cannot operate as flagship with a full command, Cavour is a light carrier built with military standard with all the space to support an harrier/jsf group and act as a flagship.
Cavour has only limited amphib capabilities because it have no dock (only heli assault and transport).
Thus u have a big difference of price cavour cost from 4 to 5 times a bpe (electronics cost more than steel)….
Now u can see the difference??? 😀 😀 😀 😀