I thought I had peered at every photo in that Lysander book but never noticed the ungainly cannon mounting. Explains the button. You learn something every day! I feel improved.
What are the chances of that, it can only have been listed in the last hour. I am quite un nerved. And unfortunately not nearly rich enough. I’ve never spent that much on a car.
Lordy, there’s an unusual one. Have you got a better picture? I’m more than curious!
That confused me to Graham. Turns out some Lysanders were fitted with a pair of 20mm Hispanos where the little stub wings should be. Made the Lysander with a tail turret look like an elegant piece of design. facts aplenty on the Spade Grip thread.
Here’s another photo. It looks to be K6127 which as listed as one of two prototypes delivered between July 37 and April 38. It must have almost stopped it when they were fired. Was there an eight gun Master, as well as snooker balls in socks and welded pikes to hold back the Hun.
Was it the RAF’s first cannon armed plane?
The two dials are standard Luftwaffe oxygen equipment, 250 Kg cm2 systems were certainly fitted to late war Stukas and Ju188s at least. The big round thing at the back is the oxygen regulator. Would be stupid to leave it, always better to identify things you have in your hands! Now where were those Whirlwinds…
I’ve got this terrible feeling of deja vu.
Referring to Wallace Clarkes’s ‘British Aircraft Armament Vol2’ the issue of the guns working was a very real one. The French Hispano canon procured for the RAF in 1938 were hand made and functioned well. The licence built British versions were prone to breaking and stoppages and the problems were not ironed out until 1940. Their mounting in Spitfire Ibs(?) caused quite a few problems in the Battle of Britain, with stoppages I think (can’t put my hand on proof for that one though). That said the Lysander mounting does look spindly.
All good stuff, thanks again.
Thanks for the info. The triumvirate of Ebay, Amazon and Abebooks have failed me but will keep looking. The Stuka volume was particularly useful, having the only illustration of a two seat JU87H available anywhere that I’ve seen.
Fascinating stuff! Never seen the BP turret Lysander before. JDK I can’t see a Lysander book on your link but if it as lavishly illustrated as the other Mushroom publications I’ll certainly be buying it. They are excellent for identifying ‘found’ fragments although the only Lysander I’ve heard of being dug up was a Battle of France (then and now) aircraft where a spade grip with ROUND gun buton was recovered. Don’t have the book to hand but perhaps someone could shamefully scan the photo?
Thanks AdlerTag, in stock and now on it’s way to me. JDK can now feed his family!
not sure about the pilot but definately August 1940. The cloud patterns in the background are unmistakeable. Why have you not copyrighted it?
No Graham, I am Andy Saunders best friend. Or was that Spartacus