I agree Egyptair is the best one.:cool:

Excellent must put Frankfurt on my to do list:D

Nothing here either tried Chrome and Safari.

The reason it is dangerous for military controllers to do the job is, they are not trained as civilian controllers which have different rules they apply. Most military work is basically VFR flight info service. Try separating two fast jets doing combat moves. The only like for like work they do is Tower controlling but they do multi runway occupancy landings and takeoffs i.e. several aircraft landing taking off at the same time from the same runway. Which is not allowed civi side. Approach is also similar but further out Radar work is basically FIS.

Also a radar rating takes 3 months of school work and someone needs to do their OJT i.e. a current valid rated civilian controller who in this case I imagine will refuse to do it. The OJT will take 180 hours or three months. So that is a lead in time of 6 months to get a military controller to do the job. These are international requirements. If the Spanish government were to ignore these and force military controllers to do the work and there was an incident there would be an awful lot of people going to prison and huge payouts to the victims families.

Half the time for a direct entry civilian controller.

By the way the Spanish do not let anyone other than Spaniards be controllers just like the U.S. .

I am a controller and YES what they are paid is disgusting they flog themselves doing overtime when in fact they are seriously understaffed. All they want to do is reduce what an individual controller earns, where as they will have to increase staff numbers to make up for the lack of controllers working. Basically equalling what they pay out in wages over the year but to more controllers. So no overall cost saving.

This all translates as

Unfortunately Ryanair is disappointed to announce that as we are not filling our aircraft out of Manchester. We have disguised this by making an unreasonable demand of BAAMAN that we fully well know will not be agreeded to. We are going to pull all but our Cash cow Dublin route. We won’t be pulling the Dublin route as we love to rip off Manchester Utd supporters in Ireland by looking up the fixtures and ramping up the prices well in advance. Having now announced that we intend pulling the routes we will cry foul and blame everyone else but the simple fact that no one has the money to fly as often as the Ryanair business model that we are based on. Please expect the same pitiful excuses at an airport near you soon.

By the way these are my quotes no one elses.

It fell off rolled through the perimeter fence and barely missed a school full of young kids.;) I jest. But the pilots a hero.:D

Routes do have set Max levels due to traffic volumes.

Routes from Dublin to airports within Manchester Acc’s airspace can only climb to max FL230 and on return FL220. Its roughly the same for flights from London Acc airports to short destinations in Europe. The further away you go the higher you can climb.

Within the UK you generally can’t go above FL240 as then you will be making work for the controllers who are controlling high level traffic going to the US and Southern Spain etc. As you go high the slower a plane climbs and therefore the more miles it takes to get a plane up so you will be in conflict with more traffic.

Flying east wards you have to fly at an odd level i.e 230/250/270/290 etc and westwards even levels 220/240/260/280/300 etc.

But generally the level you fly at is based on an aircrafts weight the higher the weight the lower the level but as you burn off fuel(weight) you can climb.

A 744 flying to Singapore will start off at FL290 but by the end of the trip may be at FL370/390 etc.

An A321 flying from Man to Southern Spain will start at FL320 roughly but may only make FL360 at the end.

Hope this helps.