No, it’s an RB.162-86 5250 lb thrust boost jet, fed by side inlets normally sealed by power-actuated doors. Used during take-off and initial climb. Only installed on Trident Threes.
Very unusual. Any idea how it was controlled by the crew? Did it have thrust control or was it just lit and run at full power?
Is that “4th engine” at the lower portion of the rudder an APU?
Is that “4th engine” at the lower portion of the rudder an APU?
and a smart photo it is 🙂
A smart photo of a not so smart man. 😉
and a smart photo it is 🙂
A smart photo of a not so smart man. 😉
Being behind the camera means that there aren’t that many pictures taken of me. I was able to find this one from a few years ago though.
Being behind the camera means that there aren’t that many pictures taken of me. I was able to find this one from a few years ago though.
Hmmm….. but if there was an inherent fault in the aircraft then one would expect to see a pattern of similar incidents involving the same type – simple common sense tells us that.
I agree but not completely. There was an inherent fault in the 737 rudder servo which “only” resulted in 2 lost aircraft. There was an inherent fault in the MD-80 jack screw that resulted in only 1 lost aircarft.
Most inherent faults only rear their ugly head during very rare/complex circumstances or environments. There could very well be an inherent fault in the A300 family rudder but it only becomes a factor during specific situations that put specific loads on the rudder (ie wake turbulance at slow airspeed).
Usually what happens that that such events rarely exist to an extent to create a fatal failure but do exist at a lesser intensity which doesn’t cause fatal damage but does create noticable stress damage. Would the encounter with several stressed rudders over several decades be a reason for alarm? Not really. Would those same rudders be looked at with a more critical eye if they were aware that given specific circumstances those stressed rudders could have actually failed and come off in flight? Most definately.
Just because there isn’t a pattern yet doesn’t mean there isn’t a fatal flaw.
EDIT:
Another more recent example could very well be the Bombardier CRJ. I would say any aircraft that has a simultaneous engine shutdown in flight could very well have a fatal flaw even though there isn’t a noted history of such events.
Hmmm….. but if there was an inherent fault in the aircraft then one would expect to see a pattern of similar incidents involving the same type – simple common sense tells us that.
I agree but not completely. There was an inherent fault in the 737 rudder servo which “only” resulted in 2 lost aircraft. There was an inherent fault in the MD-80 jack screw that resulted in only 1 lost aircarft.
Most inherent faults only rear their ugly head during very rare/complex circumstances or environments. There could very well be an inherent fault in the A300 family rudder but it only becomes a factor during specific situations that put specific loads on the rudder (ie wake turbulance at slow airspeed).
Usually what happens that that such events rarely exist to an extent to create a fatal failure but do exist at a lesser intensity which doesn’t cause fatal damage but does create noticable stress damage. Would the encounter with several stressed rudders over several decades be a reason for alarm? Not really. Would those same rudders be looked at with a more critical eye if they were aware that given specific circumstances those stressed rudders could have actually failed and come off in flight? Most definately.
Just because there isn’t a pattern yet doesn’t mean there isn’t a fatal flaw.
EDIT:
Another more recent example could very well be the Bombardier CRJ. I would say any aircraft that has a simultaneous engine shutdown in flight could very well have a fatal flaw even though there isn’t a noted history of such events.
I’ve never seen one in person but I keep my fingers crossed. I always have loved the shape of the tail, very large and swept.
I’ve never seen one in person but I keep my fingers crossed. I always have loved the shape of the tail, very large and swept.
Plane Reg was 1244 in NWA colours but being run by KLM.
I suspect you mean it was a codeshare with KLM not actually operated by KLM. The NWA pilots would be up in arms if one of their aircraft was flown by another airline. 😉 🙂
Great report BTW.
I remember that Chicago tunnel very well
That’s the Detroit tunnel in the NWA terminals. It’s similar to the United ORD tunnel but I prefer the Detroit version more. 🙂 With the soothing music and lights I always feel tired when exiting the other side.
Holy smokes this is a young group! I’ll have to dig up a picture…
Holy smokes this is a young group! I’ll have to dig up a picture…
Same for the French Canadian providences.