HMAS Canberra (LHD 02) has now been officially commissioned into the Royal Australian Navy; the page 1 listed has been updated accordingly.
USS America (LHA-6) has now been officially commissioned this morning in San Francisco; the page 1 listed has been updated accordingly.
Lusty is now officially retired, so she’s been removed from the page 1 list.
with the news that the RN’s new QE carrier is now officially floating, i’ve updated the list on page 1 of this thread.
well, she’s officially floating now!
65,000 tonne #HMSQueenElizabeth looks majestic after rising off her blocks for the first time:
Her deployment is described by most media (at least in Germany) as symbol to Putin, but she probably will not enter the Black Sea anyway.
not gonna happen. The Montreux Convention of 1936 forbids the transit of any non-black sea nation warships greater than 15,000 tons through the turkish straits (dardanelles & bosporus). A Modern USN aircraft carrier is around 100,000 tons. Since 1936, the black sea has been off limits for USN carriers.
Does anyone know what the projected standard peace-time QE airwing is gonna look like numbers-wise? I’m not talking about a full airwing for war or loading her up with chinooks and apaches for the LPH role, just the standard airwing for a routine peace-time blue water CV deployment.
It’s strange seeing the island so far back, I’m sure we’ll get used to it.
With the stern-creeping island, we’re getting ever closer to the maritime equivalent of an Imperial Star Destroyer………. which is nice.
well, now that the ford has been officially christened and is floating, i’ve updated the list on page 1.
Found them: Kaga, Akagi, Glorious, Courageous, and Furious.
The Japanese had 3 flight decks while the British had 2
in addition to those ships, the USN’s yorktown class carriers had a catapult on the hanger deck which could launch aircraft, but they proved ineffective in practice and were rarely used. the hanger deck catapult was not included in the design of the subsequent essex class carriers.
so all three of the the great carrier powers of WWII experimented with multi-deck launch and recovery operations in the pre-war era, but all three eventually abandoned such designs.
^ thanks for the info guys.
i agree, this is no surprise, but it was the first i had heard of the pursuit of a second carrier unit being officially dropped, so i just wanted to know where it was coming from.
Sounds like France has given up on the PA-2 for good.
source?
All of which are likely going to be operated by their original customers until dead.
that would be my best guess as well. i just don’t see where Scooter’s alleged surplus harriers will come from. the harrier platform is in its sunset as we speak. a great plane, but not long for this world.
Where are these second hand Harriers coming from then?
a good question. here’s what i’ve found for the number of harriers still in active service globally.
USA – 126 AV-8B / 16 TAV-8B
Spain – 16 AV-8B / 1 TAV-8B
Italy – 14 AV-8B / 2 TAV-8B
India – 11 sea harrier / 2 sea harrier trainer
it’s interesting to me that the 3 european nations that built small carriers in the 70s/80s (UK, italy, spain) all have followed them up with larger ships, in the case of the royal navy MUCH larger ships. perhaps ~18,000 tons just isn’t enough space to be terribly practical for any kind of fixed-wing aviation, beyond a token presence?