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  • in reply to: First trials of F-35B on USS Wasp! #2032454
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    ^ does anyone know if it was a true vertical take-off or a rolling take-off of the sort that the harriers typically perform from gator decks?

    either way, hopefully we’ll get some take-off video soon.

    in reply to: Gerald R Ford Class CVNs #2035059
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    ever since the commissioning of the USS Forrestal back in 1955, USN fleet carrier design has really been more evolutionary than revolutionary (ok, nuclear propulsion in the enterprise was a BIG step forward, but the overall design of the ship was still pretty much based on what came before it). each successive ship that has been built in that line of 19 super-carriers has worked with the same basic design and made evolutionary improvements upon the ship that preceded. i would say that the ford class is merely following along in that tradition.

    the USN kinda hit the ball out of the park with the forrestal design. today they are still building carriers based off of that original design that will be serving in front line service roughly 100 years after the forrestal was first launched. that’s kind of amazing when you consider how so much else in our world seems to change at ever increasing paces. granted, the internals of the ford and forrestal will be quite different, but the overall conceptual design remains surprisingly similar.

    but speaking of the Ford, are there any current estimates on when the hull might be launched?

    in reply to: PLAN News, Photos and Speculation #3 #2037559
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    so she has finally put to sea! how exciting. i can’t be the only one waiting with very eager anticipation for some pics.

    in reply to: Global list of all flat tops in service #1996536
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    Pity though that until the F-35 arrives her airwing won’t really be worth it’s salt.

    yeah, because a hypothetical CVN-78 air wing in 2015 consisting of 2 squads of hornets, 2 squads of super hornets, 4 growlers, 4 hawkeyes, a couple greyhounds, and a half dozen or so seahawks is so woefully inadequate compared against the air wings that the carriers of other world navies will be able to put to sea at that time.

    in reply to: Global list of all flat tops in service #1996741
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    I saw these renderings of the new USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) posted over on another website. i don’t think they’re official or anything, but pretty damn cool none-the-less.

    http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7641/cvn7803.jpg

    http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4764/cvn7804.jpg

    http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4503/cvn7806.jpg

    http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/884/cvn7805.jpg

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #1997000
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    Adding a ski ramp would eliminate 4 of those 9 spots,

    Say what? What kind of absurdly large ramp are you envisioning? A small invincible-style ski jump off to one side of the flight deck would, at most, elimate two helo spots. That’s still significant, but hardly the nearly 50% reduction in landing spots you purport.

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #1997008
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    and they prefer more helicopter spots over the apparent advantages of a ski-jump.

    I know that, ostensibly, that’s what the USN says for the lack of ski jumps on the gators (and it is certainly an argument with merit given the primary role of the ships), but I still feel that the underlying reason why the USN is so reluctant to the idea of ski jumps on the gators is because that could present a threat to their precious CVNs, should a gator prove itself a reasonable small deck carrier with the addition of a ramp and some savy cost-cutting politicians in congress catch wind of it.

    in reply to: Global list of all flat tops in service #2001774
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    i don’t think there’s a huge problem with naming naval vessels to honor important political figures, i just think it’d be a good idea to have a 100 year moratorium after a given politician has served in office such that a proper historical perspective is gained that will afford insight into whether such an honor is truly deserved. i take much, much less exception with the USS George Washington and USS Abraham Lincoln than i do with the USS Ronald Reagan and USS George H. W. Bush. Reagan and Bush may prove one day to be worthy of having a capital ship of the navy named after them, but a decade or two is not nearly long enough to know if their accomplishments as politicians warrant that honor.

    in reply to: Global list of all flat tops in service #2004284
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    The Indian Navy has put its 2nd ADS Carrier on the back burner for now so you can probably scrub INS Vishal off the list as its just going to back to project study rather than dedicated build program 🙁

    not that i doubt you, but a link to a news article would help confirm that the INS Vishal is no longer being pursued by the indian navy.

    I think so.
    JMSDF wants to maintain 4 DDHs, 4 fleet escort forces. PLAN increases their fleet of submarines, it is unlikely government cut the ASW DDHs budget.

    thanks again for the info.

    in reply to: Global list of all flat tops in service #2004369
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    ^^ xtr970, thanks for the info regarding japan’s new 22DDH.

    so is it safe to say that proper construction of 22DDH has begun now?

    in reply to: Global list of all flat tops in service #2004840
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    French Aircraft Carrier name is “Charles de Gaulle”.

    whoops, good catch on the spelling error.

    French BPC Dixmude is due to commission in 2012.

    thanks for the correction. wikipedia says the ship is due to be commissioned in may of 2011, but we all know how out of date or just straight up wrong info on wikipedia can be.

    MB NAe Sao Paulo’s deck didn’t see any aircraft since 2005.

    aren’t the sao paulo’s refurbished A-4s due to be back in service within the year?

    Thai Navy has no more AV8S jet fighters for years, so Chakri Naruebet is just an helicopter carrier.

    i didn’t know they no longer had any harriers to fly off of her. the naruebet sure does seem to be quite the odd duck vanity project that was perhaps a bit more than the thai navy could really pull off.

    in reply to: Global list of all flat tops in service #2005177
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    poking around, i just discovered that the USS Nassau LHA-4 was decommissioned at the end of march. that leaves only 9 active LHD/LHA ships in the USN. i had always thought the plan was to maintain 10 gators in active service and retire LHA-4 when the USS america LHA-6 joined the fleet, but i guess i was wrong. i suppose they will now hang on to the last tarawa class boat, the USS peleliu LHA-5, until america is commissioned. or will they further reduce the gators to just the 8 wasp ships before the america class ships start coming in?

    in reply to: Global list of all flat tops in service #2005415
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    ^ a good resource, but a bit out of date. examples: jean d’arc was decommissioned last september. 2nd units of hyuga and dokdo and 3rd mistral are missing entirely. it lists the 3 invincibles as still being in commission. it sill lists CVF as planned to operate STOVL instead of CATOBAR. etc.

    in reply to: Global list of all flat tops in service #2005430
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    ^ you’re right. i’ll leave the date open for now.

    Hyuuga & Ise aren’t amphibious warfare ships. They’re ASW helicopter carriers.

    true. they’re somewhat in a category by themselves these days. i’ll change that.

    Japan also has three Oosumi-class amphibious ships, classed as LSTs but with through decks: Oosumi, Shimokita & Kunisaki – ca 13000 tons.

    Italy has has three Santi amphibious ships, classed as LPDs but with through decks: San Giorgio, San Marco & San Giusto – ca 8000 tons.

    “not included are smaller amphib flat tops like italy’s san giorgios and japan’s osumis because, while they can certainly land and store helicopters on their open decks, they do not have dedicated hanger space to properly operate and maintain a fleet of aircraft.”

    in reply to: Sea operations off Libya… #2007051
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    H_K, thank you for posting all of those fantastic shots of the CdG in action, a sure treat. the rafale is such a dead-sexy bird.

    On a superficial note, leave it to the French to have assembled the best looking force since we all got rid of sails (IMO)… a group shot of CdG, a Mistral, Forbin and a La Fayette would make my month… especially if it included a fly-past of Rafale, Mirage 2000, Panther and NH90… if anyone could arrange that for me….:D

    i’ll give you the CdG, horizons, and la fayettes – all fine looking warships indeed – but the mistrals???

    different strokes for different folks i suppose, because i find them to be some of the most ill-proportioned warships currently afloat in any navy today. granted, the LHD/A mission generally dictates boxy, bulky, volume-maximizing hull forms that gives the whole lot of them awkward, cumbersome lines, but the mistrals are the worst offenders to my eye. anything that can make a wasp class ship look graceful by comparison has made some serious aesthetic mistakes, in my opinion.

    just my 2 cents.

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