The KAI/LM FA-50 would be a good option for Portugal.
Not necessarily (yet it’s obvious) but my point was that the jurno’s reporting of this report kept making the erroneous conclusion that all the planes were ranked the same save for State-on-State action.
btw, Further reading puts the charts into simple terms:
Operational Assessment = How well it can do the job (SA, survivability, lethality,e tc)
Critical Enabling Factors Assessment = How well it can keep doing it’s job (sustainment, upgrades, maint, etc)
Integrated Mission Risk Assessment = The first two charts put together.So, if there were one chart to pay attention to, it’s this one:
And this phrase:
It’s obvious that for all but the most benign of missions, there is a great divergence in risk, especially when the lifetime of the aircraft is taken as the driving factor.
In a real war all these aircraft will be shooting long range CM carried under the wings…including the F-35…and if they want to survive any IADS they will have to fly fast and low…like in the 1980s…
The only advantage is «Sources that have seen the classified version of the report say the F-35’s only competitive advantage is that it has a better growth potential for the post-2030 time-frame, which hardly justifies its higher price and higher sustainment costs»…http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/159531/f_35-no-better-than-competitors%3A-canada.html
So let me get this straight… The only way the F-35 is better is if you actually have to take it to war?
Gee, why would anyone consider war performance when selecting a weapons system?
Dumbasses
You get it wrong…all aircraft (even your precious F-35) were considered high risk in peer on peer war after 2030…http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/canada-rates-f-35a-rivals-equal-on-most-missions-407025/
Gripen NG ticks more boxes of the defining 5th gen ™ attributes than F-35,
the initial capabilities are guaranteed by the Swedish state, as in they will pay penalties if it isn’t up to spec,
are you deriving purchase & operational cost from dividing package cost ?
over a lifetime, the gripen will cost less than half that of F-35
I read that as well in CAM magazine…if SAAB does not deliver as promissed there will be penalties…
I honestly belive that the Gripen is the most underrated fighter in the world right now…
He just took an utterly idiotic and childish source and pasted it here. Don’t bother..
Do you need to talk like that to outher people…
If you dont like what i write dont read it…
People are talking about EFTs and CFT for the F-35…but were are they?
And while the EFTs can be droped the CFT cant…and will have a big impact on the performance of an aircraft with weight issues allready.And the RCS will suffer from the CFTS…
As for the range of the F-16 ,it should be noticed that (according to IAF pilots in AFM magazine)the F-16I has almost the same range of the F-15I…offcourse with smaller payload…
The combat range of the F-16E/F of the UAE as been claimed to be more than 1000 milles(source:http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-uaes-f-16-block-60-desert-falcon-fleet-04538/)
On top of that the DIRCM system is not a requirement on the F-35 and is not in any official plans to be instaled in the plane…it will have also a version for the F-16 and other legacy fighters 🙂 http://aviationweek.com/defense/northrop-develops-laser-missile-jammer-f-35
NG hopes that there will be a requirement in the future and hopes that it will fit inside the plane…then there is the question of the external oppenings for the system and what it will do to the rcs…
1-F-35 does have towed decoy + jamming, even DIRCM ( google it)
2 – it can carry more weapon than f-16
3 – what plane better at VLO than F-35?
1-The DIRCM is an after tought and was anounced this year…it an external aplication(RCS?)
2-If you are talking about the number of diferent weapons… the F-16 can carry weapons not cleared for the JSF…the reverse is not true…if its payload…only on paper.Real life the F-16 can carry more load and still have a bigger range…
3-B-2 ,F-22 and the retired F-117
P.S-Give me a link on the towed decoy…
Yes but FACs don’t fly at treetop level. They have to fly high enough to see a wide area and slow enough to identify targets and call them out to strike aircraft. At least with a 2-seater the back seater can use binoculars so they can be higher / farther away.
True Phaid…i belive that is the way the USMC does it with the F/A-18D…fastFAC 🙂
They should buy new F/A-18Fs to replace the legacy Hornets…
If you load up the wings then the range and performance will go down…it means that it cant hit a target as far away as the F-16(no EFT …) it does not have the ECM and towed decoys of the F-16…so it is better to use only internal weapons…
And if VLO features are important there are better planes for the job…
You are correct. Nonetheless, my point remains that single-seat aircraft make poor FACs, slow-moving aircraft are too vulnerable, and fast-moving aircraft have too little endurance and situational awareness of the ground to be effective at this. The most effective FACs would be something like OV-10 Broncos, but using those would just about guarantee some would get shot down. If they were able to hit an F-15E with flak they would have no trouble hitting something slower.
Consider this :http://youtu.be/L5L6vDPZJ2k
And now this:http://youtu.be/XLBuvK9_rPY
Now tell the truth…wich would be easier to hit if you had one of these: http://youtu.be/T2f2e8eYGTE
I considered those…but an F-15 should fly above their reach…maybe it came down bellow for some reason…i dont know.
It would be nice to have some details on what happened but my google fu is weak:cool:
i’m assuming F-35 will integrate most weapons, and unlike the rest of you, i think it will commonly carry externally,
like the rest of us
So,even less range and worst agility for the JSF…no RCS advantage…no reason to buy it…
Ok…
No literature on the F-35 shows the plane cleared for these weapons…plese link me to some source that states me wrong…
In the case of range it is lockheedmartin that states so:
The combat range of the F-35 is 590nm/1093km -source-http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/aero/documents/…
The combat range of the F-16 is 800 nm(interdiction)-page 3 of the official brochure-http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/aero/documents/…
But dont let facts get in your way