Russia said to open up for a competing solution to the Il-276 (Me, I really doubt the Tu-330 story. A program in limbo for 15+ years doesn’t sound right)
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2019-08-21/russia-opens-competition-medium-airlifter
What are we looking at for 3rd stream, 250kg?
It’s marginal. Think also that the reduced core section will generate more weight savings than the increase brings in. We might end with an even result 😉
That definitely could happen. The third stream is relatively low temp. You could build the necessary structure out of CFRP. The core section is where your dense nickel based alloys are. Even small reductions there counts for a lot with regards to weight.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n…an-il-96-cr929
“Current plans call for combustor trials to begin next year, completion of the first gas-generator in mid-2021, and the first engine to test in 2023.”
Well, that answers my biggest question on MAKS-2019. I was wondering if they already had any working hardware to exhibit or discuss. I always knew it was a long shot and it looks like they won’t start testing their hardware until 2020. And, since PD-35 seems to be coming along faster than PD-12V, probably nothing there either. It might be a while before us average Joe’s see how their common design concept for engines is going.
[USER=”41059″]halloweene[/USER] – The airflow in the intakes doesn’t appreciably change. You could change it, if there is opportunities for further enhancement and internal tolerances within the structure of the plane and such support it. But it doesn’t have to. Having the third stream just changes bypass airflow.
[USER=”39911″]TomcatViP[/USER] – That doesn’t get you a reduction of a factor of two but I’ll take that as a good initial approx.. They will probably reduce the internal volume of the engine core (to get their high pressure ratio) by a slight amount though – like how I first proposed – instead of bumping up the external diameter of the engine (and intake). So, since pressure is a factor it could be slightly more than that. We’re talking small changes though…no need for the drastic difference in the size between the fan and the core seen in airliners because that third stream is compressed and so gives a very high bypass flow. And that means the engine will be very efficient because the fan can run at its optimum speed simultaneously with the LP and HP spools – which cannot happen with the big airliner engines without coupling the fan through reduction gears.
An update on the Tiger groundings…Germany is working on replacing the defected parts.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/germany-rolls-out-fix-for-grounded-tiger-fleet-460247/
A twenty seven minute podcast on countering hypersonic weapons from Aviationweek.
https://aviationweek.com/defense/podcast-countering-hypersonics
Where are you getting the factor of two from? The amount will depend on how much airflow they are planning to divert with the third stream and at what pressure. I don’t know if either has been decided yet.
I wonder why is heavy helicopter project going so slowly, cooperation on a concrete project was announced a decade ago. and yet one can read that actual airframes in service aren’t expected for another decade.
They haven’t agreed on the final specs yet. The Russians would like to build a heavier helicopter, roughly similar to Mi-26. That would allow them to use the PD-12V turboshaft engines that they are making. The Chinese favor a smaller design with less lifting performance. The PD-12V is overkill in such a design and so that means using D-136 (Ukrainian) or a Western engine. Either of those approaches complicates things.
The heavy lift helicopter is definitely an area for cooperation, but it ain’t going to move as fast as CR929.
It’s a mistake to think too much about the high bypass ratio airliner engines. Traditionally, all of an engine’s bypass flow is taken off of the fan. Airliner engines have to have much larger fan diameters because they do it this way. Their fan speeds need to be much lower than the rotation of the engine core because its radius is so much larger. The ‘normal’ bypass stream of the future three stream engine will do this too. However, fan rotation speed doesn’t have to have the same reduction as with airliner engines because the fan isn’t much larger than the core. Now the third stream will tap off of the LP compressor (and so also bypass the core). This air is already significantly compressed and so you get a very large portion of total mass flow from it (thus, high bypass ratio). The compressed section can be re-expanded (increasing velocity and thus thrust) via nozzles. The idea is you only take in as much air through the engine core as required for maximum efficiency. The rest can be used for IR sig reduction and such. And the core does not have to be tiny relative to the fan (again, because that third stream is already compressed).
[USER=”58228″]mig-31bm[/USER] – Hard to say. There is very little that is known about it at this time.
Another science and engineering outlook article from flightglobal…this time focusing on coming scramjet engines.
[USER=”40268″]blackwood[/USER] – The reveal picture of the static test frame published last year shows the final design. It has what is sometimes called a platypus type exhaust. These types of exhaust nozzles have shown themselves to be a maintenance headache in US designs. So they started flight tests of the drone without it (because they don’t need it for that – as djcross pointed out) while they do materials research to try to avoid that outcome.
It will be interesting to see how quickly this project develops. I’m guessing its service date is more than 5 years out, but we’ll see.
Raytheon delivers NGJ-MB to USN for testing
[USER=”77045″]rpgtype7v[/USER] – The problem with that is China and Russia does not have a defense/security pact. So, both countries have to keep in mind that the possibility that relations might not remain as warm as they are now. In the long run, supplying China with platforms which can deliver 80,000lbs of ordinance to Moscow or St. Pete might not be wise for Russia. And it might not be wise for China to be dependent on Russia for a strategic deterrence weapon. The reality is that cooperation has to start slow. This is why most of us have been focusing on transports, AWACS, tankers, and such. The security issues there are much more manageable.