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  • in reply to: General Discussion #246803
    wolflyn
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    hi guys,, a group was recently formed on facebook from people living in Neath who have taken an interest in LV72, https://www.facebook.com/groups/787159187984566/
    we are trying to find out more on her history(still waiting to hear back from trinity house) if anyone here can add to it or maybe has photos of her in service, please get in touch,
    heritage lottery funding could be available, but there are certain criterias that have to be met,, the fact that lv72 is already on the historic ships register and a dday veteran is a good start,,, if funding is applied for and approved the next criterias to get it are harder,, basically lv72 would need to offer the community and people who use her something in return, so an end purpose for the vessel needs to be agreed before funding can be applied for, at the moment it seems they wouldn’t give funding just to carry out an inspection to see if she can be saved in the first place. but will keep enquiring,, provisional costs for an inspection where she sits, seem to be in the region of 10-15k, this is the history we have compiled so far,

    Built by John Crown & Sons of Sunderland in 1903 this steel Light Vessel has a number of claims to fame, from the time of its first commission for Trinity House in 1903 until 1944 it served on at least three stations including the Shipwash station off Dover until it was Closed in 1912.

    LV72 was one of two Light Vessels which saw service during the Normandy landings, LV68 carrying the name KANSAS and LV72 carrying the name JUNO the vessels marked a safe passage through a minefield for the landing craft on route to the invasion beaches.

    Juno (No. 72) Lightvessel was established on 18 June 1944 remaining on station until 27 January 1945 when she was towed to Le Havre for damage repairs following various collisions and heavy seas.
    One month later she was relaid in a new position at a station named Seine. On 3 March 1946 she was replaced by a French Light Vessel named Le Havre and towed to Harwich

    Following the war the vessel passed through a number of different stations firstly Smith Knoll Station off East Anglia (1946-49) before moving south to Varne Station in the English Chanel (1949-53).
    Exceptionally high tides at the end of January 1953 flooded Immingham Graving Dock,.whilst in the dry dock, the Trinity House light vessel VARNE- LV72 filled and turned over.(presumably she was in for repairs before her next posting)
    In 1953 the vessel began its longest posting on the English and Welsh Grounds where she would stay until 1972 apart from the Evening of Nov 30th 1954 when her anchor chain parted and drifted off station and tugs were required to reposition her before she ran aground
    The vessel was laid up at the Trinity House berth in Swansea in 1972 and was decommissioned and sold the following year.
    When sold she was the oldest vessel in the Trinity House fleet.
    The vessel was bought by the Steel Supply Co who intended to scrap the her having arrived in the river Neath on 30th May 1973. Her new owners decided against scrapping the vessel and had her painted yellow, and for a short time she was used as the company’s office. Unfortunately this was short lived and the vessel has been left to slowly rust away. There was at one point a plan to convert the vessel into a floating night club but it didn’t come to fruition.

    Apparently its a unique light vessel,
    Optics- originally equipped with Catoptric 9-2W oil lamps, they were later replaced with electric lamps in 1948, however the rotational gear was left untouched
    Fog horn : Siren, powered by 2 – 15 hp Hornsby Oil engines, driving air pumps, after conversion “F” Diaphone with 4 – 5 mile range
    making the vessel possibly the only light vessel powered by both Oil and Electricity

    Technical data

    Length: 116 feet (ca. 35,36 m)

    Beam: 24 feet (ca. 7,20 m)

    Draught: 15 feet (ca. 4,50 m)

    Displacement: 257 t

    in reply to: General Discussion #246260
    wolflyn
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    It’s sad to see them like that

    if the LCT,, HMS Belfast and LV72 are the last of the larger vessels that served during the operation, and all listed as national historic ships, more should be done to save them, rather then let them rust into ruin… if they had wings it would be a different story I think

    in reply to: General Discussion #246264
    wolflyn
    Participant

    found the magazine,, cheers

    in reply to: General Discussion #246266
    wolflyn
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    The lightship was covered in the May edition of Britain At War, oblong with the last surviving LCT
    See
    http://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/register/713/landfall

    It’s sad to see them like that

    Was that a tv programme or magazine?

    in reply to: General Discussion #246268
    wolflyn
    Participant

    hi Jim as is happens I also contacted sky about this,,,and waiting for a reply,, thanks for asking too.

    in reply to: General Discussion #246148
    wolflyn
    Participant

    true lol,,,

    with the restored LCT,, LV72 and HMS Belfast moored together,, they would make a fitting tribute to naval operations of WW2

    in reply to: Curyll Nedd -Neath Hawk spitfire #907699
    wolflyn
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    forgot to add,, I was kindly sent scans of the sections on the Martyn Evans Bevan and Curyll Nedd aircraft from gifts of war… if anyone comes across photos of the aircraft, please let me know,,, as along with myself,, the Niece of Jack Mooney, the pilot who was killed whilst on rhubarb operations in w3841 is also trying to find a photo of it

    in reply to: Curyll Nedd -Neath Hawk spitfire #907702
    wolflyn
    Participant

    I presume the authors of “gifts of wa£r must have found documentation or photographic evidence that w3841 received the name curyll-nedd,, so hopefully that info will come to light somewhere,,
    as mentioned above by other members, that there was quite a length of time where the Neath Guardian published the name of the aircraft in January,, and then its FF much later in the year,,, although that does coincide with the newspaper article I posted with the photo of ?3322 which was in the October 10 Neath Guardian

    additionaly Osprey Spit V aces book has a photo of spitfires under repair/upgrades at Westland, with a description of w3841,, which describes the cartoon dog painted under the cockpit but no mention of a name,,, also in other books w3841 is listed with other aircraft in the squadron, ,many of those aircraft include their presentation names, ,but again no mention of a name for w3841,, it is only gifts of war that appears to list it.

    in reply to: Curyll Nedd -Neath Hawk spitfire #909378
    wolflyn
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    3332 was the Hendon Griffin,, although one of the lists refers to 3322 being it to,, but presume that is a typo,,

    it would seem strange for an aircraft to be badged up and photographed, and the photos sent to the town which was not actually their aircraft that they had donated the funds for,
    apparently the town received a painting at a later date, so im trying to track that down…

    in reply to: General Discussion #279268
    wolflyn
    Participant

    an aerial video shot recently

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54O65tIjRrY

    in reply to: General Discussion #279269
    wolflyn
    Participant

    Hello again. The chap I spoke to was named MATT, I never got his Surname, but he promised to follow it up on Monday.BTW it was Broadcasted on ^th June 2004 at 11.17 am.
    Jim.
    Lincoln .7

    had an email back from matt at sky,,,, they want £100 for copy of that programme,,, daylight robbery……………..

    wolflyn
    Participant

    true lol,,,

    with the restored LCT,, LV72 and HMS Belfast moored together,, they would make a fitting tribute to naval operations of WW2

    wolflyn
    Participant

    It’s sad to see them like that

    if the LCT,, HMS Belfast and LV72 are the last of the larger vessels that served during the operation, and all listed as national historic ships, more should be done to save them, rather then let them rust into ruin… if they had wings it would be a different story I think

    wolflyn
    Participant

    found the magazine,, cheers

    wolflyn
    Participant

    The lightship was covered in the May edition of Britain At War, oblong with the last surviving LCT
    See
    http://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/register/713/landfall

    It’s sad to see them like that

    Was that a tv programme or magazine?

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