Thanks for the correction – a bit early in the morning for all the neurons to be firing.
When someone asks about “beautiful” aircraft, I think one has to ditch all other factors which may influence your opinion apart from aesthetics. Therefore, history, war record, capabilities, fond memories, impressiveness, noise etc etc all have to be discounted.
Beautiful means looks only. With that in mind, impressive aircraft like the B-36, extreme aircraft like the Extra and successful aircraft like the Neptune should really fall out of the equation.
On the other hand, beauty is in the eye of the beholder so what looks good to you may look hideous to me. The important thing is that it is looks that count for the pupose of determining “beauty”..
Thank’s for that. It’s looks were further improved when the tailfins were moved to the extremities of the tailplane and the strut bracing was removed. You can see in the painting that the plane is carrying a Class B registration “E2” or “E3” (I can’t really make it out).
Aestehically, I think the most beautiful aircraft built is the pre war DH98 Albatross airliner.
Sorry, but I have not yet mastered the skill of posting pictures.
Although not military, I witnessed the fatal crash of Wilga SP-AFX at The Faireyhouse Air Spectacular” in 1984.
I’m pretty sure it is a re-engined Buchon (which was a “G” with a Merlin, to all intents and purposes).
Is it still flying?
I’m afraid a lot of the original drawings, publicity material etc was lost during the great mergers of the early 1960s. Now and then, enterprising employees rescued stuff from skips and dumps but much has gone forever.
The AA?
I remember Blair doing a low level beat up of Runway 24 at Dublin Airport in VP-LVE in 1977.
What a sight.
Is their “Saint” motif based on the drawings used on the cover of the Leslie Charteris books – and of course the Roger Moore and Ian Ogilvy TV series?
Will ITV be banned from showing re-runs of those series?
I hope this “rumour” is just that – a rumour.
Hi Tony – point taken. I hadn’t realised that the 1937 Constitution officially dropped “The Irish Free State/Saorstat Eireann” nomenclature.
I well remember you making some sort of presentation on the Irish Army Air Corps at an ASI meeting at Shell House back in 1978/79 period – unless I’m very much mistaken.
Regarding aircraft which inadvertantly ended up in the Irish Free State – most of them tended to be written off in the incident which caused them to come down in the first place so they were unusable by the Irish Army Air Corps. Secondly, Ireland didn’t have the resources to operate a lot of the larger aircraft that might have been repairable to flying condition. Thirdly, although officially neutral, unlike (say) Spain or Portugal, Ireland was (and still is) a democracy so had little sympathy with Hitler or Mussolini so there would have been no way they could have obtained any technical support to keep any German aircraft flying. In the end, I’m pretty sure large Allied aircraft were either transported by road to Northern Ireland or flown directly back to the UK. A small number, a few Hurricanes, a Battle and a Walrus (the example now in the FAA Museum) were operated by the Air Corps. The Hurricanes were actually bought from Britain when the war ended.
The Walrus was, for a while, owned by Aer Lingus, although to what use they could have put such an aircraft is beyond me.
As far as personnel were concerned, Germans who ended up in Eire were interned for the duration of the war. Allied airmen were usually interned for a short period and then repatriated to the UK – usually via Holyhead or by train to Belfast. The system was so casual that the airmen were usally given their train or boat tickets, a lift into Dublin city centre, and then were allowed to make their own way home.
The Irish Free State was neutral throughout World War 2 but thousands of Free State citizens enlisted in both the British Armed Forces and the American Armed Forces. Some, like Brendan “Paddy” Finucane went on to be highly decorated and famous.
Even from my own locality in North Dublin quite a few joined up. My mother’s cousin joined the RAF and ended up stationed in India and a lad who lived only a few hundred yards from my home also joined the RAF and became a tail gunner. Sadly, both did not survive their service lives. The gunner was lost on operations and my mum’s cousin died from a malaria related disease just after the war ended. A friend of my dad’s joined the Royal Navy and ended up on the Cambletown raid! He survived the war but my dad said he was never the same after.
Ireland’s contribution to the war is sadly overlooked in both Britain AND Ireland. The British just ignore it as to them the Irish lads were just another lot of blokes to deal with – they weren’t looked on as foreign and therefore did not stand out. The Irish ignored them because, in a very mild way, they were looked on as slightly traiterous – for helping out “the old enemy”.
As far as I know, there are no official memorials in Ireland to the thousands of Irishmen who died fighting in WW2.
The “blobby” Nimrods were NEVER effective. In fact, they were never used operationally – they never managed to get the radar system to work properly. On the other hand, the original Maritime Reccie version has provided sterling service to the RAF since 1970. Lets hope the Tay refit programme doesn’t go the way of the AEW fiasco – it could very well the way things are going.
I didn’t see “The Brylcreem Boys” in that listing of TV shows. This was an excellent one off play by the BBC about an RAF sentry who, following frostbite, is sent, in error, to a psychiatric ward full of RAF aircrew suffering from various disorders. Every night, they re-arrange the furniture in their ward to approximate with the crew positions in a Lancaster and more or less re-enact the horrors that resulted with them ending up in a hospital.
Chilling, and moving, stuff. Shown by the BBC around 1980.
It was being delivered to Blackbushe for I think (Doug Arnold?). The year was 1977. I’m sure it would have ended up being used for film purposes.