Wasn’t Gayduck being built in Mykolaiv? Unless they have half-finished hull around (and maybe not even then), unlikely they’d bother with yet another corvette class vessel. Seems equally unlikely the dock would be given export Gepards, and surely they’re not going to build any more of them for Russian navy so I guess it’s more Buyans. Btw while we’re at it, any word about third Gepard class hull? Are there any completion plans, or has it been already scrapped?
http://flotprom.ru/2014/175571/
This is interesting. The shipyard “Zaliv” in Kerch (gloriously re-taken Crimea) is getting an order for 4 navy ships. No info about what kind.
My amazing Babelfish powers claim that the orders were transferred from Zelenodolsk, so possibly project 21631’s, or some patrol boats?
Guess it’s form of economic support for the region. Hey, if they decide to repair KERCH, maybe they can do it there?
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/11/10/reason/
Welp, looks like Kerch is probably a goner.
Do they have spare engines lying around from Azov or Ochakov…?
Maybe they can keep it as an immobile (or semi-immobile) training ship.
Ivan Gren, now there’s a sad sight for sore eyes. They just ordered a second ship, no?
http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=416336&download=2&type=.jpg
Assymetrical gun face?
It does look like the turret is bit asymmetrical. I wonder if it causes a problem with recoil etc. Also, front surfaces of the turret are canted inwards a bit?
Well, the frigate programs are finally bearing fruit. Next couple of years will be pretty busy with all the trials and inductions for new ships. Any word about follow-up orders? There has been conflicting information – once it was claimed that the plan was just 6+6 of 22350 and 11356 each, then a completely new design. 9+9 has also been claimed somewhere. OTOH I see little point keeping the 11356 line going if the Gorshkov’s are rolling off already.
If the machinery was destroyed, then the ship is probably beyond economic repair – no point for expensive propulsion rebuild for such an old ship. If it was mostly other interior, cabling etc. burning, then it’s probably saveable.
Well, assuming that the poster meant even larger ships…there has been less need as legacy destroyers and cruisers were generally more modern than the frigates. However there have been reports and rumours. From memory:
-10-15 years ago there were reports about ‘Squadron Surface Ship’ (new destroyer) and ‘Universal Surface Ship’ (cruiser) (I may not remember the project names correctly). I don’t know how seriously they were pursued, however back then, those ships were completely unaffordable by Russia so nothing came out of them.
-then there was Project 21956, a new multirole destroyer. I think this was a private venture from Sevmash? It didn’t look too modern and apparently there was no interest.
-more recently, there has been rumours about building of new, possibly nuclear-powered multirole large destroyer.
Anyway, it may be that they will be content in modernizing old ships instead. Nakhimov is beginning modernization, Slavas will all undergo refit & slight modernization and there was talk about major modernization program for Udaloys.
In other news, Finnish Air Force is selling off five retired Redigo training & liaison aircraft. Maybe Eritrea or Mexico wants them? Mexicans even put it into a stamp:
All the Karas were meant to get this radar, correct? Only Kerch completed modernization though, so they probably had several of these systems in storage?
Ustinov is getting Podberezovik! After all the announcements that it would have no modernization, this is outta nowhere.
Capability aside, this might ruin the lines on an otherwise pretty ship.
Damn…my 1/700 Trumpeter Ustinov is now obsolete…and yeah, Top Pair is just such an indimidating looking radar installation 🙂
Looks indeed that the modernization is slightly more through than I thought. They’re not replacing the Top Dome, though, it seems. Wonder whether the CIWS suite sees any upgrades then?
What the Slavas really needed was another SAM fire control radar, but I presume that would be very laborous to install.
Pr.22350 finally getting ready for sea trials is a great relief, just wish the rest of the ships follow soon.
11356 need to be accelerated as well so that at least two of them are available this year itself.
No way. I doubt Grigorovich even starts sea trials this year. They might launch Essen before year-end if things go smoothly. Though, when 11356’s were announced I made a bet with myself that Grigorivich will be commissioned before Gorshkov, and it now looks I’ll lose it. (OTOH since I made the bet against myself, I will also win, so it’s not all bad.)
I too am surprised by this announcement of new variant 20386. It looks to me that 2038’s have pretty low priority, construction times are very long and new contracts announced sporadically given the supposed force goal of 20 to 30 vessels.
OTOH Soviet and Russian arms projects often seem to have lots of duplication so why not have two separate corvette lineages as well. Pork barrel, anyone?
Corvette Boiky buzzes marine research ship, causes diplomatic row
Apparently, Boiky was overseeing submarine trials (Novorossiisk or one of the Vietnam Kilos?) at Gotland basin, and didn’t like Finnish research ship loitering in the area. Now in light of recent events, airspace violations etc, this quite trivial happenstance has been overblown.
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Not sure this is the right thread to discuss Thales GM400… but I’ll throw my two-cents anyway!
1. The GM 400 antenna is freakin’ heavy! So I don’t really buy the “rotating antenna is lighter, hence it must be an aesa” argument.
I’m sure it is heavy, but APAR’s 4-array fixed setup weights 10 tons 🙂
The point was rather that phased array antennas can be rotating too, and often are.
The point to note is that the GM 400 radar rotates at speed. Any mechanical training present on PESA and AESA radars is used to direct the array to a sector of interest, and the individual targets in that sector are then scanned electronically, and at a much higher rate than the once per six seconds that the manufacturer cites in the video I linked to.
Late to the party, but I’m not sure I understand what’s the beef here is – there are LOTS of phased array radars which rotate at fixed speed: for example TRS-3D (passive), EMPAR (passive), SAMPSON (active), the list goes on and on…in fact, I’d say that most of the phased array surveilance radars currently available are rotating. The reason for this seems to be that when height of the antenna is important, rotating antenna is just much, much lighter than setting up 4 fixed arrays – particularly important in maritime installations.
Thales GroundMaster 400 is most certainly a phased array radar, and most sources seem to think it’s an active phased array, though manufacturer’s site does not explicitly refer it as so.
Is that a Termit on pic #38? Thought they were out of service long ago. Is that a fixed coastal defense installation?