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  • in reply to: How good of a fighter was the Mirage F1? #2129677
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    It was originally touted to replace the original Etendard, but later it was realised it could also replace the F8 in the interceptor role.
    Again, I speak from memory so mught be incorrect, but I think it was to be powered by the M53 to provide better thrust IIRC.
    At the time, I think they settled on the Super Etendard for reasons of economy/budget. I personally think this was a missed opportunity to replace 2 airframes with one.
    A mockup, or partial mockup at least was displayed.

    Big problem with Jaguar M, Mirage F1M and Corsair (which was also considered) was that they would have required modifications for French carriers, which were pretty small. So it was decided to to with ‘temporary solution’ Super Etendard, until new & fancy ACT would be ready for the carriers. As it was, ‘temporary solution’ ended up serving for near 40 years.

    in reply to: Finnish fighter replacement revisited #2129872
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    The program of record has not changed, the procurement schedule has been extended. Even with the reduced buy rate, the production ramp up coming in the 2020’s is more critical for driving down unit cost than overall numbers (which again, have not changed).

    It only means that ultimate decision will be done in the future, probably by some other bunch of politicians who will suck the blame.

    in reply to: Finnish fighter replacement revisited #2129926
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    Finish delegation visited UVZ in the 1990s to check out the T-90, and by insider accounts were quite happy with it. But due to politics, it was not considered, the only real “contender” was the Leo2.
    Trade between Finland and Russia has grown hugely from those days, even accounting for past few rocky years. While arms wise Finland has moved away, in almost every other sense the countries are closer than they were in Soviet times.

    T-90 inquiries may have been part of studies to see what arms purchases Finland could make to write off Russia’s post-Soviet debt. Considered major items were tanks, helicopters and missiles. In the end, only major acquisition was the Buk deal (which the Russians almost immediately began to regret). The Army was extremely cash-strapped in the ’90s and couldn’t afford any new equipment. The plan was to modernize T-72, but then European countries began dumping used Leopard 2’s at fire sale prices, so the plan was scrapped. Confused state and chaos within Russian arms industry in immediate post-Soviet era didn’t really help. “Nobody knew anything, or could point us to a person who could have helped”.

    in reply to: Finnish fighter replacement revisited #2129928
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    The reason is simple, economies of scale. LM makes more in one year (by 2020) than nearly 5 years of Rafale production. On the development side, since the USG & Partners have already paid for the basic development, it’s cost is not included in Partner & FMS sales (as per all FMS contracts).

    Do note that USAF F-35 procurement will be cut. Most probably this will happen by the way of reduced acquisition rate, this will drive the unit cost up.

    Any way, in case of Finland, role of currency exchange rate will have big impact. A weak Euro would make Rafale/Eurofighter more attractive, on the other hand exchange rate of 1.20 or higher would make them prohibitively expensive compared to US alternatives.

    I’ll have to dig around, but a recent governemnt (not the US) report did an apples/apples comparison of the F-35/Eurofighter/Rafale/Gripen/SH and showed that the F-35 cheapest overall.

    If you’re talking about Danish evaluation, it was not apples to apples as it assumed enormous cost savings from F-35 maintenance model. The result is not relevant for Finland, which is not JSF partner nor member of NATO, and will have her own maintenance set up, just like Israel.

    in reply to: Ja 37 viggen ( interceptor version) vs Mig-23MLA #2137421
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    MiG-23MLD with R-73:
    http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/figh…mig23mld-9.jpg
    http://www.16va.be/galeries_vvs/mig-…_2/_00018.html
    http://www.16va.be/galeries_vvs/mig-…_2/_00022.html

    Thanks, I had read that R-73 was integrated but pics usually only showed R-60 so I wondered whether that was error, or only applied to some trials aircraft.
    MiG-23 did not have HMS however, right? That only came with -98 upgrade?

    in reply to: Ja 37 viggen ( interceptor version) vs Mig-23MLA #2138046
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    ISTR Jaktviggen datalink could only link two aircraft. It was increased to four in Gripen.
    PS-46 was probably much better than even last versions of Sapfir, it was developed with help from Hughes and (IIRC) included design solutions used in APG-63. I also daresay that Sky Flash was better missile than R-23/R-24.
    MiG-23 may have had some advantage in kinematics, maybe also better countermeasure set. Viggen originally had neither flare or chaff dispensers.
    I’ve read that MiG-23MLD could carry R-73, not sure if I have ever seen it carrying one though.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread 2. #2006322
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    Finnish photographer Leif Rosas took these, and was signaled from getting too close:
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    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon discussion and news 2015 #2155861
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    It’s a bit like Canada & the EH101/S-92. Once the EH-101 had been cancelled, it was political poison for any members of the same party to order it again, so the S-92 was touted as cheaper, better, needing less customisation, etc. 20 years & many millions of Canadian dollars after it could have got EH-101 (24 years after the cancellation), the CH-148 still isn’t in service.

    Oh come on. I’m sure Cyclone will be in service any day now.

    in reply to: 63 Mirage F1 sold to the US #2157582
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    Mach 2 isn’t very high on the list for adversary operators…they seem to want simple and small-ish aircraft with modern subsystems installed. Mirage F1 is relatively small, sure, but probably not very fuel economical and radar set is very old. Can French Mirages carry attack pods?

    in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #2006450
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    I don’t think Nimitz has a Prairie-Masker. Izumo wake is so prominent though that maybe she does have some sort of acoustic covering system in use.

    in reply to: 63 Mirage F1 sold to the US #2157676
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    Argentina might have missed their chance….cash talks.

    If those articles are correct, asking price was about 300 000 euros per aircraft. If Argentina can’t afford that, they can’t afford anything.
    I wonder, though, if the Mirage F1 is really as suitable for adversary role? Sure French Mirages were modernized somewhat, but avionics set is still very old even compared to KAHU Skyhawks.
    I would think that SEM was more suitable for private operators, though the airframes are probably out of flying hours.

    in reply to: Korea's KF-X: News & Discussion #2161875
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    I know you are being sarcastic, but yes, they are especially if the ‘new’ radar is an updated variant (even if using AESA technology) of the existing radar. If every parameter improves 5 to 10%, it’s nice but not necessarily worth a multibillion upgrade program.
    Most of the previous generation fighters continue to the end of their careers with their old radars, new radars are usually only installed as a part of comprehensive upgrade package.

    in reply to: Korea's KF-X: News & Discussion #2162030
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    Since radar remains the primary sensor on an aircraft, it most certainly is relevant to the discussion.

    The point is that if you simply take out an existing radar and bolt a new one and everything else stays the same, performance gain is going to be modest.

    in reply to: Korea's KF-X: News & Discussion #2162289
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    It is pointless to only talk about radar since nowadays radar is an integrated part of the sensor system, rather than a separate instrument. How the radar information is processed, analyzed and presented is more important than whether the radar range is 80 or 100km.

    in reply to: The future of Austrian fighter fleet #2162455
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    Throw in the costs of training, logistical suport, etc, for a handfull of airframes that the nearest operator is on the other side of the planet and throw in the costs of integrating a BVR weapon (thats not cheap, it can easily go to a 200 to 300 million US$ bill) and sudenly it might not be so cheap.

    Although FA-50 currently does not have BVR missile and integrating one is not cheap, true, many present and future operators are interested about it and probably costs can be shared.
    But, OTOH, Austrian Eurofighters don’t have BVR capability either, so maybe that is not on the menu.

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