Its not an issue, the intake is 7 feet up, and @ fast idle, there is zero chance of fodding the intake.
Lucky so and sos!
You ought to have a museum update thread on here (apologies if you have!) so that interested parties can see if you have any events like this coming up, I’m sure some would pay to see and hear a Buccaneer S.1 running!:)
well perhaps we can tag it on here. with all the engineering work we do, its hard to find time to maintain such a thread, but well try between Pete and myself. That is one very lucky bunch of apprentices, I can tell you. 923 is almost triple any of their ages. The run wasnt public Pagen, it was specifically for the Branson apprentice’s turbine course.
.GAMs role for the education and training for these youngsters is really important. Many of the guys had seen a jet run, but this was a real treat for them, to see something with no computers or fancy digital control, and understand how it works at a basic level. There’s no substitute for this sort of thing. They certainly asked a lot of questions about the engineering behind the S1, a pleasure to have them around..
hello AMB, yes not too long to go now. We have already started putting the saudi markings back on. most of the jet blast warnings are now on. We have the fin flash, the nose roundel, under wing markings, and various squiggly bits still left. the complicated ones are scanned and laser cut, the simpler ones are done on a decal machine, and vynil cut. All are vynil, they are much better, and don’t wear off with repeated oiling, like painted ones do. We oil the fuselage down regulalry, so paint wears away after 5-6 months.
hers a big one reapplied.

oh stop it you three, you’ll makes us all blush. (yes foul mouthed engineers do blush sometimes):rolleyes:
it is, its a balancing act. its not just us, its most of the events around the country. we do sometimes run more than one, but again, it depends on the numbers booked This is why we tend to go RSVP these days, so we know how much we can cover. Last year we ran the Vixen and Sea prince on the same day. We tend not too generally, because it is very stressful for the team, you have to have eyes in the back of your head every second. The Lightning isn’t ready yet, so she will just be open for cokpit tours ,and perhaps a gear retraction demos or something.
But hey, you can still get yourself up to Cranfield if you want to experience your pants on fire for a few minutes! 🙂
Yes, a couple of them will most likely be public runs, it will all depend on funds being available to cover off the days. Avgas is hugely expensive, and its getting more and more difficult to sustain such runs, without putting the entry prices up. If you ask £15-20 for such events, people complain because an air show ticket might only be £5 more, but the reality is, it costs that much to cover it. She shack costs about £500 for a 10 minute run, and we have to cover that cost off, plus insurance. So long as we get around 50-70 odd people at the runs we can. Without appearing to be a doom monger, All I would say about all of these such runs, jets and props alike, is: when you see them advertised on this forum, go and see them while you can, because 3-4 years from now, there will be very few runs happening anywhere. almost none of the groups bar one or two, make any profit from these runs, infact barely cover the operating costs. With fuel, insurance, and consumable prices rocketing each year, such public runs are becoming exceptionally difficult.
top post Lighty, and believe me, the cash you guys throw our way, is very much appreciated by every group. yup, throw the operating manual in the bin mate, all you need to know in the real world is, she uses fuel quicker than you can pump it in!!;)….and yes, it costs a bomb!…………, now 4 avgas drinking griffons at chat, is another tale!!!
it appears there is no movement Peter. 🙁 . A familliar story I’m afraid blue_2. what are you playing with?:)
14 gals a second?? think someones been telling you big fibs:). a t5 holds about 7500lbs of fuel. so @ 14gals a second, call it 140lbs a second, you would use 8400lbs a minute. so in a t5 you would run out of fuel in 53 seconds in reheat!
f3 and t5 use about 750lbs a minute in max reheat at low level, so about 12.5lbs a second, or 1.25gals a second..or just about 2 standard oil drums a minute. think about emptying an oil drum full of diesel in 30 seconds, through 4 pipes. 2 1.5 inch pipes under 600psi, and the other two pipes, 2 inches in diameter, under 50psi of pressure. that is basically what is happening to a Lightning in reheat. This gives you a range of 10-12 minutes with the volume control off of the scale.. The f6/t55 and f53 were a little more, around 1.6 gals a second at low alt. you can get an f6 down to about 8-9 minutes duration if your ham fisted.
Nash, post a picture of the ones youre talking about, presumably the top cowling catches? we’re in the process of replacing all of em on 982. i dont know how many we have , so no promises. but if they are the same ones, and we have enough we might be able to spare some..
no worries fella, updates wont be quite so interesting now, as there wont be much for you guys to see any difference in, since we are almost there. Thanks for trying on the oil, its very much appreciated. I know what you mean baout doors closing, bleedin MOD bean counters! :D…
binbrook74 on this forum used to own it, im sure he can tell you plenty
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no1 engine hydraulic pump access panel. portside.
it should have a nunber on the inside, i.e the yellow side, followed by an S or a P. that will narrow it down to exactly where it comes from.