although these people appear to have done no harm and taken these pictures only, believe me, their actions are most unwelcome by the owners of the compound and the Lightning association, and in no small part probably indirectly responsible for a recent act of damadging vandalism on 724,..
By propogating these pictures and passing on the word, tresspass becomes a problem, until recently. Security been beefed up. So a heads up for anyone thinking of going up there to see 724. please, please, please! do NOT tresspass onto Binbrook. get permission!!, unless you want to get your heels torn out by very angry Dobermans that is, I kid you not! zero tolerance is now in effect at Binbrook, and the police are now involved 😮
Peter, the panel you refer to, was stolen by yobs!
The ground equipment is government surplus.
so in a months time what happens to these two crates?? are they destined for stripping and disposal? hope not.
I was tasked the other week with assessing the general condition of XM173 for the FS Eng here at Bentley and I can let you all know that concidering the length of time she has been exposed to the elements she isn’t in too bad a shape. She is missing her engines, but the cockpit is 99% complete with the only missing items being the control stick (which has been cut off) and one of the consoles on the right hand side of the cockpit. The bang seat is still inplace complete with its harness. The only thing that really bothers me though is the amount of condensation in the cockpit, it can’t be doing the airframe any favours. I must stress that when I had a look at the airframe I could only do so by getting some step ladders and peering through the perspex, I didn’t open the canopy. I hope that this of general interest for every body.
and what about the actual air frame? has she had the chop or been molested in any way. i.e wings and fin undamaged, or cut before?
thanks
blimey, I hadnt realised that 458 had been sat around 10 years or so, before she was woken up. I’m surprised the engines were any good, or that the rheat pipes still worked.
out of intrerest, how long had 452 and 458 been sat about before they were rescued?
Stevo
Heres a few I found digging through some piccies, not real close ups, but you get the general detail for the legs and forward bay. I cant find any of the wheel bay itself at the moment.
stevo, you after pictures of the bays or the legs? I have few that may help you until 320 psi can get you some better ones.
:p LOUDER!
Its just a publicity stunt for Branson, If he was serious He would put proper money in, not a pathetic 1M, which he could spare 10 times over without any bother. Apart from that, Airbus will never release the design authority without heavy weight political pressure. whatever 558 ends up costing at first flight, triple it and add a 100% again, and that probably wont even come close to the money required for Concorde. Cant see it happening……..
low level pass over brunters. it would be rude not to:D !
that info is incorrect. Nothing to do with gatwick Aviation Museum or Peter Vallance!.Park Aviation doesn’t exist anymore. It was taken over by Aerospace Logistics, and moved else where.
Twas one aiframe only. WZ394 that induced a seriously smelly brown Y front moment.
[QUOTE=CSheppardholedi;1114596]Makes one wonder. Was it a design flaw, engineered too close to the margin for safety and longevity of operational life (which often happens on the bleeding edge of technology) or was it the change in operational profile that doomed the A/C?
Nowt to do with design flaws. Twas the latter. mod pushing squares through round holes!
The aiframes were being used outside of their design envelope. Vickers had already voiced concern some years earlier. Hence no surprise when the first higher hour crate went, BANK…CLUNK on final approach.
Wasnt designed to be beating up hills at low alt with a full stomach!:(
Of course everyone would like to see The Delta Lady to the air again, that there surely is no question, but when a bunch of us were at The Newark static last September we all pondered how the RAF managed to fly 558 into Brunters in a serviceable state but is not now.
By serviceable, I mean all systems working today as the day she was delivered, what went wrong?
:rolleyes:I have just seen the previous post by DB, surely the RAF did not deliver one of its own kind with corrosion in evidence, or was this something found much later/
simple. the answer is, 18 years out of service, grounded. without an all kit out, major every 3 years, it wouldn’t be airworthy after 2 years, let alone 18 odd. the corrosion was probably in its embryonic state either before, or not long after it arrived at Brunty, undetected. I dont know what type of corrosion was found, but it was likley hidden under a skin, or between rivetted frames, something that is not evident until you remove a skin or X ray/NDT testing shows it up.
Its closed.