mjryour welcome ol chum. dunno wos happend to these piccies…..? Ive losgt me wing man….. going down in flames 🙁 mayday! mayday!
mjrtalk amongst yourselves :rolleyes: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
mjrdamn it, you beat me to it. contest of fasterst typers, you won!!
mjrslight technical glitch….. their coming…. honest 😀
nige, I can see you are logged in, so before you can get a sarky comment in about being able to fix jets, but being crap at posting threads…. I got there first :p . ner ner! anyway wot u doing on line at this hour? you should be hunting up Jav and bucc bits 😀
mjrok, maybe a long minute then….. communications break down….. Calling greazy erkk…. are you there?
mjrAll, below arrived this morning from the BAPC forum
“The Vulcan to the Sky Trust (VTST) is delighted to announce that
after months of searching, funding has been found that will allow
completion of the restoration of Avro Vulcan XH558. This means that
the striking delta-wing aircraft, the enduring icon of the Cold War
that dominates the history of the late 20th century, may now be able
to take its place at the centre of the commemoration ceremony that
will mark the 25th anniversary of the Falklands conflict in June
next year.
The news that the project can be completed will not only excite the
many thousands of Britons who have fond memories of the Vulcan, but
will come as a great relief to the team of 30 engineers who have
worked tirelessly for the past eighteen months to get the Vulcan
back on its own three feet, only to be told earlier in August that
if £1.2 million was not raised by the end of the month the project
would have to be scrapped. Celebrations of the successful capture of
the necessary funds will take place tomorrow at Bruntingthorpe
Airfield in Leicester, when the formal announcement of the funding
will be made, and XH558 will leave its hangar for the first time
since the project began. The Vulcan’s undercarriage was only
refitted in the past week, and bringing the imposing aircraft back
out into the daylight promises to be a momentous occasion, as Sir
Michael Knight, Chairman of the Vulcan to the Sky Trust, explains:
“The Vulcan to the Sky Trust would like to thank anyone who helped
ensure that the Vulcan will fly again, with hundreds of thousands of
pounds being donated or pledged That these pledges and donations are
for the most part made up of thousands of individual amounts in the
£10 to 100 range is testament to the strength of the public’s desire
to see the Vulcan fly again. That said, I am absolutely delighted to
announce today that the project has just received a truly
magnanimous donation of £500,000 The team at Bruntingthorpe – and,
indeed, the British aviation community – are greatly in his debt.
That splendid news will, I hope, be an encouragement to all who are
enthused by this inspiring project – and, indeed, to all of us on
the VTST team – to continue our fund-raising efforts for some time
yet, if XH558 is to be capable of accepting a pressing invitation to
lead the flypast over London to commemorate the 25th anniversary of
the South Atlantic conflict in June next year.
Looking forward, today’s roll-out of Vulcan XH558 is cause for great
celebration, especially for the small but dedicated team which has
worked so hard to achieve it. It should also bring a deep sense of
satisfaction to those thousands of loyal enthusiasts and friends who
have supported this complex project over the years. I must say that
to ensure continuing public appearances we will need to keep relying
on the generosity of the public and commercial organisations, but we
have passed a very significant milestone today. “
The Vulcan to the Sky campaign has also received the Royal approval,
with the office of the Prince of Wales conveying Charles’ warmest
good wishes on meeting this hugely significant point in the project:
“His Royal Highness has fond recollections of his flight in Vulcan
XL392 at RAF Waddington, and was thrilled to hear that XH558 is to
be rolled out of its hangar.”
The Vulcan to the Sky project has previously benefited from the help
of the Heritage Lottery Fund, for whom Emma Sale, Regional Manager
for the East Midlands, reacted:
“We’re delighted to hear this excellent news. The Vulcan Bomber is a
truly unique example of our outstanding aviation heritage.
“The Heritage Lottery Fund awarded the Trust over £2.7million for
their restoration work but we always require applicants to raise
additional funding too. It’s great that all their hard work has now
paid off and so many people will get to see this magnificent machine
restored to its full glory.”
If the remaining funds are made available to the project, next
season’s air displays around the country will greatly benefit, as
the instantly recognisable sound of Spitfire and Hurricane and the
impressive dignity of the Lancaster will be hugely complemented by
the awesome sight of the Vulcan. XH558 will pay a moving tribute to
the valour and foresight of planners, the talents of aircraft
designers and engineers and the steadfast determination of a
generation of airmen whose proud task it was to help prevent
conflict and ensure that Europe remained at peace through the
ultimately successful national and NATO strategy of deterrence.”
WELL DONE AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE VULCAN TEAM FOR NOT GIVING UP DURING ALL THE NEGATIVE PRESS, IT LOOKS AS IF THINGS ARE ROSEY AGAIN.
mjrAlthough not every week ,hence the rollover thing .Maybe the winners should have their names and address’s published, and they can have another begging letter (or 50) to put through their new paper shredder; point is that we don’t need to donate £500- each, what is needed, is for the net to be cast further, there is almost certainly people out there that don’t even know about VTTS (in fact I spoke to one this morning , he saw the Vulcan flying ,maybe 15 years ago but was unaware of the project ,even after the BBC1 spot this morning).
Exactly, what is needed is prime time, this mornings air time was too early, most people wouldnt have seen it. It needs air time on all the regionals at 5:30pm. Looking at some of the stuff that gets air time on the South east regional news, the Vulcan project is more than worthy of prime air time. Q a pr guru.
mjrAndy. Stop being so damn negative.
There are literally hundreds of Vulcan sized hangars in good condition on Vulcan sized airfields all over the UK who are just gagging for the opportunity to forego whatever income they are currently earning given a chance to house the Vulcan ‘because it is the Vulcan’ and charge next to nothing for the service unlike those profiteering B’s at B’runtingthorpe who actually charge RENT for it.
Moggy
.Aw common, its unfair to start Walton bashing!. However this is a forum of free opinions, so please, back it up and do enlighten, interested to see where the profit is made.
MJR
mjrwasting your breath mate, like you I have donated, and weather the project flies or not, Im glad I gave money. too much negativity.
mjrvery big of you moggy c, well done
mjrWhy dont we just wait and see what happens??? :confused:
Childish content edited out. Moggy
mjrYet another thread on 558 and all that is involved, starts with an innocent query, moves to the ‘I know more about it than you do’ dick dance which involves copious amounts of personal attacks and ends up going way off topic.
As far as I can see (and I class myself as a very inexperienced person) they tried and are near failure but appear not to be going down without a fight, even if it fails at this point in time someone who see’s the potential will probably be able to pick up the torch and finish the job, maybe not this year or maybe not the next but one thing is for sure it is hard to ignore the amount of work and effort that has gone into this job and at the very least she will be rolled out of the hanger in a better condition than when she went in (I hope!).
Please, from a person who lives in hope and optimism lets not go through with this type of thread again and support the crew in getting her back to where she belongs, no matter how rocky the road.
Kindest regards,
John.
Sensible words.
mjrNo it isn’t, sponsorship is getting a company’s name up in lights, associated with a particular event and hopefully benefitting from the exposure. It’s not quite the same as an advertising campaign, to which a company requires some form of return or increase in sales.
Bang on.
Marketing! and expenditure.
investing in ventures such as the Vulcan doesnt see direct profits. Only a buisness idiot would look for direct profit in such a venture, IN the same way that branson wasnt going to make a penny in profit with Concorde for his infrastructure investment for some time, or by flying millions of quids worth of ballons across the world, or half a million quids worth of paint job on LAX industrial roof tops? A publicity tool. The profit is by marketing and association. Do Red bull give money away to the Vixen because they will see a direct return in profit from operating? or Shell sponsor Thunder city operations for hundreds of thousands $$ worth of fuel because they get a direct return?? Does branson pay the colosal insurance coverage on sally B because of a big profit return? Or, although slightly different case, do marshalls purely oem for 558 because they are getting paid? Do green flag sponsor F1 coverage for direct profit returns? we could go on with examples all day. No, CUDOS 😎 . they are all legitimate balance sheet expenditures, off set tax!! the written off figure is already forecast for the following financial year, the benefit usually being, marketing their overall product in an unusual fashion, from which the actual monetary return cant be forecasted or calculated. exposure. It costs blue chips nothing to invest a million or two here or there, the puny investment for such product placement doesnt even scratch the surface. Thats why they do it. But they rarely pitch up until the last minute. But the Image has to be right.
The problem with 558 maybe, IMAGE. it isn’t operating yet, its buried in a dark hangar. presumably thats the purpose of the roll out. Once operating, sponsors will probably step forward. I have not been involved with the project in any way, and am therefore totally unbias, but IMHO the poor publicity, negative coverage,bad press, bitching and nay sayers surrounding the project from day one, have hurt the project Image and done little to bolster corporate confidence, to hand over some of their marketing dosh. If VTS can at least confidently roll out a complete airframe by Septemeber, it will do much to negate a lot of the damage already done. If the Image is right, sponsors will follow.
I say well done to all involved for having a go. Its easy to criticise from sitting in an armchair. it seems VTS are scoffed at what ever they say or do.
mjrWhat a crying shame for such a valiant effort to be so close to failure now. I tip my hat to all involved for having tried so hard. Some how though, with so much work having been done, and all the OEM component work done, I doubt this will be the end. major corporate groups will always wait until a project is on its knees before offering to rescue it for peanuts. Harsh but normal practice for greedy blue chips. I wouldnt be surprised if one or two are watching from a far.
mjrgood ones are, since they are still used for tractor pulls and spares for runners
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