Andy, do you seriously pay 65 quid a gallon for OM15?! Or did you mean 6.50 a gallon?
MJR
An aspect of the ex AEW Shacks which limits their potential as flying exhibits relates to spar life. Due to the requirements of national defence an extension was made available to the RAF by the design authority iE British Aerospace. After the end of RAF service this extension ceased. It is significant that the only AEW Shack flown in civil hands has been operating on the US register experimental category.
??? Werent the Mk2 AEW’s re-spared? Hence why the RAF continued with them rather than the MK3 ph3’s into 1992.
MJR
[. From what I have seen, Savvas Constantinides has done nothing to preserve these important aircraft.
Hardly fair. The guy had them flown out to a proper airport in a descent climate, which is more than can be said for many shacks in the uk, that were hacked up to be moved by road. He purchased them in order to keep them flying and start up a thunder city style museum. For what ever reason he then went banckrupt later, and got himself in a situation where he couldnt pay the owed ground rent etc for the aircraft residency. As a result their ownership was seized by the powers that be, they are the ones that left them to their own devices. Its no good blaming the MOD either, Im sure that they were delighted to sell the aircraft to a rich business man who intended to keep them flying, just around the corner from an RAF base that used to fly shacks too. What more could MOD have done to secure their future? the general public are not as enlighted as the rest of us preservationists, and its the tax payer and governement the MOD have to keep happy, at least you have the chance to purchase aircraft these days, in the not too distant past, little was auction available to anyone that wanted it, it all went to the local metal merchant to be squashed, apart from the odd gate guardian.
the MOD are under the same ridiculous commercial pressures that any other corporation are under these days, they have to answer to government bean counters, just like your employers have to answer to its shareholders. If anyone is to blame for the way assets are now auctioned off, its the goverment, for trying to run our MOD like a commercially viable business.
MJR
Sounds like fun!
Dread to think what the fuel bill for that lot will be though 😮
Regards,
Dan
Shell wont give a monkeys. As a global giant, how often do you get the chance to have your company logo splatered all over 4 immaculate, deafening frightings in re-heat at once! 😎
MJR
Hokay – will see wot I can do!!
watch your step at paphos!!, it would be very very foolish to linger or point your lens at those shacks unless you are on the move, that part of the airfireld is now millitarised, if you are spotted taking photos of them, your feet wont touch the ground. Just remember the last group of spotters who got themselves air time and home office intervention!
MJR
has anybody “actually” had a good close look and walk around these birds, ie all around em, gear bays etc, to ascertain their true condition.?
mjr
Bingo… on the nose… exactly… 5 by 5… (and I can call myself an expert in that field)
true, jpeg compression causes lossiness, pixel fragmentation etc with higher compression levels, but there is a lot of pixel fragmentation in this image consistent with clone brushing, or touching up. but whats with the haloes???? normally Chroma downsampling in Jpeg compressors, causes jagged or fuzzy edges around colour margins/edges, not symmetrical haloes almost all the way around edges, only ever seen that in transplanted bits. has the image been repeatedly compressed and uncompressed?
is it a dirty government cover up conspiracy? :p
mjr
this photo is fake or highly altered, its been messed with, there are digital touch marks all over the place. At twenty times magnification the alterations are everywhere, just take a look at the top edge of the spine and the hood, the angle of the spine is too straight and flat , the outside edge has a tell tail halo of pixels all the way round, The nose section also has digital touch marks all around it, and the tell tale halo of lighter pixels all around it. The most obvious place is the “hood” behind the cockpit area, its doesnt blend with the rest of the image. The camel has also been touched up, the left wheel has the bottom of it cut off under magnification. The shadows are weird too, it looks as if this hulk has been lifted from another image and inserted, or has been heavily altered in this image.
mjr
So thats what the damn tail hook is for.
MJR
It involves the removal of the forward fuselage and rear and then splitting the wings apart in the centre section. It’s a lot more difficult to reconstruct the aircraft to the same level of structural integrity and the manufacturers drawings afterwards!
Not really, for a static museum exhibit it takes about 2 days to prepare the wings for fitting, then a days work to mate the fuselage, nose and wings together and fit all the wing to fuselage screws and frames. Putting it back to gether as per bay practice isnt necessary if it isn’t going to run again.
We put 579 basic sheel back together in one day with 5 blokes, a hiab and a good driver,(allbeit after taking 2 weeks to prepare the wings correctly, since it was going to run again) and without any of the correct trestles. Taking it apart is far more difficult than putting the basic aiframe back together again.
Its a shame its been cut, but not surprising.
MJR
http://www.gatwick-aviation-museum.co.uk/lightning/mainsite.htm
? pass.,we were just told it had gone north. Its strange though, they must have whisked it away very quickly, as we watched the destruction. They reduced the whole aircraft to shreds in about 3 hours with a JCB, The nose came off fairly early on, it was lying there most of the time, then it was gone in aflash. must try and find the pictures, we also got plenty of pics inside and out 5 days before hand, after we turned the aiframe down, since the back end was completely rotten.
MJR
ah, appologies didnt read the post properly, the nose section on the gallery, not the one that was removed from the rest of the aeroplane by force!
MJR
Still there on the 15th May 2006, I don’t know what the long term plans are for this aircraft. Does anyone know what happend to the Comet nose which was located on the viewing gallery ?
It wont be going anywhere until it pays for itself and comes off of the books and struck off charge, its currently on charge for “various training”, then it will make a short hop over the fence to join gatwick aviation museum, where it will get some long awaited tlc. The comet nose section migrated North a about the same time the comet was chopped up.
MJR
oh ok, just wondered, as a few of those jags are in a couple of very obscure locations, just wondering how the photographer got access.
MJR
http://www.demobbed.org.uk/images.php?type=631
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow05/cockfest/jaguar.htmRegards.
Radek
Did you take all the photos on the site which the top link refers to?
MJR