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  • in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2252738
    Y-20 Bacon
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    This project follows the Soviet bomber T-60C before it turned into a interceptor. Characteristics are very similar.

    http://paralay.com/mdp.html

    you have an interesting idea, are you saying the Russians helped China again?

    in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2253000
    Y-20 Bacon
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    My image was a bit compressed. Here’s another one with less compression and higher contrast. One can see a different door outline. All these fan made drawings also noted the second weapons bay. A hint of a missile can also be seen in those smaller bays, in the original image. Here i unforunetely drew that blue line over it.

    Anyway, another peculiar issue is the main weapons bay. it is just too huge, really. Even if we scale the whole plane to just 23 or so meters (4 meter long aam bays) the main weapons bay seems to be almost 7,5 meters long. Ratio of main weapons bay length and length of the whole plane is really so huge that i can’t think of a single plane that had a similar ratio.

    Unless i’m looking at it the wrong way and the bay doors aren’t that long. There is really no need for such long weapon bay, it is too long even for cj10 class cruise missiles. One could of course assume there are twin longitudinal bays but that’s again too large, that’s suggest a 45 meter long plane, far heavier than even H6. 7 meters would be more than enough for both cruise missiles and a large antiship missile. I don’t believe yj12 is 6-7 meters long, but even if it it, it’d still fit. And two would still fit, and it’s unlikely the bay is narrow. On the contrary, precisely because of the whole layout of the plan and top mounted intakes, the width of the weapon bays may be be quite significant, more so than on j20, for example.

    Another peculiar thing is that with such a slender layout and such a huge portion of internal space being taken by weapon bays – fuel allowance may be quite miniscule.

    you have a reasonable analysis unlike the other fan fans. regardless, i think this is something that Russia should be interested in acquiring.

    Y-20 Bacon
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    I have no Clue who this Metz person is.. or why he is so thrustworthy.
    If what he says can be thrusted, then why the heck don’t the USAF come clean and show us the true performance of the old F-22 birdy..?

    yes, because the chief test pilot of the USAF is not good enough …

    in reply to: Reintroducing high viz markings #2253995
    Y-20 Bacon
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    Thobbit,
    I agree.
    in fact high viz markings will have another added benefit

    It can glamourize aircraft, creating further interest from the public to support the military. something thats an issue in Europa.

    OR

    the military can start selling ad space on the planes to generate further revenues, something that’s also an issue in cut cut cut Europa.

    for example if they sold ad space to a video game company..
    http://screens.latestscreens.com/xbox360/screenshots/acecombatassaulthorizon/37820ACAH_DLC_F-35B_PAC-MAN_06.jpg

    Y-20 Bacon
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    I have severe doubts that all Azeri Su-25s were upgraded to KM standard, if any.
    The available photos usually show their aircraft with the T-shaped dorsal antenna which is not present on the Scorpions.
    If there are some Su-25KMs, then they are not many of them in service.

    is Georgia still in a position to offer upgrades to the su-25s or did the factory lose that capability?

    in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2254003
    Y-20 Bacon
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    1, that’s iran
    2, pakistan really needs a bomber of this size?
    3, that’s iran

    forgive me if you’re just being facetious.

    1. Iran and what about it? are you saying Iran can’t do joint projects with China like Pakistan?
    FYI, Iran has a more developed aerospace industry than Pakistan’s and more engineers.
    2. Yes Pakistan does. stealth bomber that can drop Pakistani nuclear bombs would be a welcome deterrent. but Pakistan is po’ see.. so its China’s job as a good friend to subsidize the purchase for Pakistan.
    3. Yes that’s a model in Iran, got a problem? stop being racist against Iran. They have a long history and a culture and civilization that is even older than China’s

    in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2254416
    Y-20 Bacon
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    kind of reminds me of this. perhaps they are doing a joint thing like with pakistan
    http://nukesofhazardblog.com/images/user/83/Iran_Fighter.jpg

    Y-20 Bacon
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    could super hornet land on Fock?

    in reply to: Príncipe de Asturias #2000196
    Y-20 Bacon
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    None will buy it.

    No one wanted 30-year-old British Harrier-carriers that had been also used for troop-carrying duties (Invincible, Ark Royal), and nobody is expressing any interest in an even smaller, more-limited capability 25-year-old ASW-only carrier.

    Spain will NOT sell the AV-8B+s with it, they will fly them from Juan Carlos I… so all it can ever be for anyone is a helo carrier.

    New full-length versions of various 15,000-20,000 ton amphibs that can easily be modified before building starts for ASW capability are being marketed by several shipbuilders (and have been for ~20 years) with no takers, and if any nation wanted that capability they would be far more likely buy new.

    Since no one has expressed interest before, the odds of someone suddenly deciding they HAVE to have an old, small, limited-capability ship right now is virtually non-existent.

    what about ex british harriers

    Y-20 Bacon
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    I did…

    …And going by this scenario it would be seen by many as a direct threat to The Falkland Islands. The last thing Argentina wants is negative coverage.

    You don’t need a fighter the size of a Flanker to cover a large country that has minimal threat.

    from the Argentine perspective, you could argue that the British presence in Malvinas is a threat

    in reply to: 1.8Bn$ for 10 C17: think about it Eu! #2254684
    Y-20 Bacon
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    ok I’m thinking about it..
    and i like! where do I sign.

    in reply to: New Chinese Stealth Attack aircraft #2254689
    Y-20 Bacon
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    yes I think it has DSI.
    i think this is a UCAV.
    the supposed cockpit is actually the DSI bump

    Y-20 Bacon
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    Are you pretending to not understand what I am saying?
    Gaps introduce radar reflections (to put it very very very simply) caused by radio wave surface propagation. That is why it is avoided in US designs and that is why the gaps are minute in those.

    This gap intentional or not, hints at two things, either they know about it and can’t do anything for it, or they simply don’t care. Either way, knowledge so far says, a VLO design should avoid gaps.

    it doesn’t look like a “gap” from that close up picture.
    but rather, an indentation

    in reply to: jf-17 vs golden eagle for the #2 spot behind Gripen #2255517
    Y-20 Bacon
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    how does the JF-17 with 2300 kg of internal fuel have 552 km of additional combat range over the Gripen C/D that has 2270kgs of fuel? Surely that figure for the JF-17 is wrong or includes drop tanks and full internal fuel.

    The RD-33 was never considered to be a fuel sipper anyway, whereas the F-404 is quite frugal, so what gives the humongous additional combat range for the JF-17? Notice, their ferry ranges are nearly the same. Something’s wrong with that data.

    those figures are from pla-mk2, so you have to take it with a grain of salt.

    Y-20 Bacon
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    Well, as a stop gap they could also go for PAF refurbished Mirage IIIs leased, and then go for JF-17 block IIIs. Just a thought.

    no sorry. they already decided on Mirage F1. no more Mirage 3s or JF17s fantasies.

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