Really? Yet another thread involving the JF-17 Mr crispy fried bacon? You and PLA-MKII make the ideal couple, ever thought of moving in together? Although keep in mind that bacon will most certainly be off the menu :p
well we tried it out, but he just couldn’t handle a life of bacon, ham, spam, and pork.
Golden Eagle is much cheaper than Gripen in acquisition cost and probably similar if not cheaper in operation costs.
in fact its as cheap as the jf-17, but you’re getting a western quality plane that has a trainer variant if needed.
Here’s the MIG-29K from 2005. It’s the all round black version as you can see theres the different virants of the MIG-29K from the Indian Navy/Russian Airforce hopefully i helped you out with the photos. 😀
hmm yes, the 1980s MiG-29K already has the big spine..
actually it has a bigger spine than the new MiG-29KUB.
2 seat is good, but I kind of wish they also would build the single seater.
yeah this is your favorite f-16
at one point in time Iran was also supposed to get F-16s
the f-16 is known as the happiest fighter in service
Personally, i got a little confused with his comment. :confused: Probably he was mentioning for the purposes, the Mig-35? :confused:
well from what I understand
1980s = MiG-29M
1980s = MiG-29K based on MiG-29M
1990s = MiG-29M2 two seater based on MiG-29M
2000s = MiG-29KUB based on MiG-29M2
2010s = MiG-35 using MiG-29KUB airframe with different avionics cuz they couldn’t get money or support to build the original MiG-35 plans
here’s the truth..
Argentina chooses mirage F-1 and will upgrade them instead of going new build like jf-17
Y-20, English forum?…
Need it to be more “English”? ok..
Gawdon Bennet! here’s da truth..
Argentina chooses mirage F-1 an”ll upgrade ’em instead ov goin’ new build like jf-17. OK?
no one doubts the massive changes from the MiG-29 to MiG-29KUB
but what about
MiG-29K (1980s) to MiG-29KUB (today)
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incorrect, highest income by ethnic group in the USA:
Indian American : $86,130[2]
South African American : $81,912[3]
Filipino American : $76,954[2]
European American : $75,466[3]
Taiwanese American : $73,988[2]
Maltese American : $72,847[3]
British American : $72,268[3]
Russian American : $72,179[3]
Australian American : $72,104[3]
Latvian American : $71,797[3]
Iranian American : $68,028[3]
Lithuanian American : $67,493[3]
Lebanese American : $67,264[3]
Chinese American : $67,211[2]
Fijian American : $67,003[2]
you forgot East Asia on your list in which China, Japan, South Korea will have 5th gen fighters. Taiwan a small possibility
you forgot Turkey which will likely have some
and Kazakhstan might have a small silver bullet fleet
Right then better translation it would seem the Argentine Defence Ministry has ordered the FAA to get a quote for 12 flying F-1M’s and 12 more for spears recovery
looks like Argentina will be following your advice as they chose the F1 to replace the Mirage III.
perhaps in 2030 they will choose the Mirage 2000 to replace the F1
here’s the truth..
Argentina chooses mirage F-1 and will upgrade them instead of going new build like jf-17
http://www.nuevaeranet.com.ar/locales/nota-el-gobierno-nacional-podria-adquirir-12-cazas-para-la-vi-brigada-aerea-28808.html
The MiG-29K being sold to India is a modernization of the MiG-29K initially developed in the 1980s-early 1990s for the Soviet/Russian Admiral Kuznetsov* (and Varyag, which ended up sold to China).
The MiG-29K project was initiated in the late 1970s when the Soviet Navy developed a requirement for a supersonic carrier-based fighter. As a first step to meet this requirement, the Mikoyan design bureau designed a “proof of concept” version of the MiG-29 fitted with a stronger undercarriage and a reinforced tail section with an arrestor hook, the MiG-29KVP (Korotkii Vzlet i Posadka, or “short take off and landing”). The KVP first flew on 21 August 1982, and was subject to extensive trials which demonstrated it could safely operate from a ski-jump, but ideally a production aircraft needed more power and greater wing area.
It was decided to base the definitive naval version on the advanced MiG-29M (Product 9.15) that was already under development, further modified with new undercarriage and folding wings of greater area, with the new model designated the MiG-29K (Korabelniy – “ship based”) or Project 9-31. The MiG-29K differed considerably from the MiG-29 production model, featuring a new multi-function radar, dubbed Zhuk; a cockpit with monochrome display and use of the HOTAS (hands-on-throttle-and-stick) principle; the RVV-AE air-to-air active homing missiles; antiship and antiradar missiles; as well as air-to-ground precision-guided weapons. To protect the engine from FOD, the engine inlets were fitted with retractable grills instead of the LERX louvres used by land-based MiG-29s.
The MiG-29Ks first flight was performed on 23 July 1988 at Saky by test pilot Toktar Aubakirov. On 1 November 1989, on the same day as the Sukhoi Su-27K, Aubakirov executed the first carrier landing of MiG-29K on the aircraft-carrying cruiser Tbilisi (now known as Admiral Kuznetsov), the first take-off from the carrier’s deck was successfully performed the same day.
During 1989–1991, the MiG-29K underwent further tests aboard the Admiral Kuznetsov. The project was put on hold with the collapse of the Soviet Union, while the Russian Navy only pursued the rival Su-33. While official funding stopped in 1992 (2 prototypes built), MiG continued development with their own resources. The MiG-29K program was revived in response to the decision of the Indian Navy to acquire the former Soviet Navy aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov in 2004.
* Laid down as Riga, launched as Leonid Brezhnev, conducted sea trials as Tbilisi, and commissioned under its current name.
they should’ve continued their tradition of using city names and name the carrier Grozny.
Or the original F-18 & A-18 pair… before they decided to cram both missions into a common set of avionics, producing an aircraft with a slightly-reduced capability in both missions (due to a heavier airframe than either “single-role” version would have had).
are there pictures or specs of the dedicated f-18 and a-18?
You simply don’t get it !???? … all photographic evidence show that the J-20 is actually shorter than a Flanker (esp. J-15/Su-33 with a length of 21,19m) … as such I really don’t understand why You still think it is “much bigger than” a F-22 (with a length of 18,87m) !!! … only if for You nearly 90 cm are “much bigger”.
Deino
hey baby, retard your anger.. for some reason fanboys get upset when they hear the word j-20 and big go together.
what I said is true no matter how much you deny it. j-20 is bigger than f-22.
and no need to white wash it.. flanker is 22m and f-22 is 19m, or a 3m difference. or in other words its 72 feet and 62 feet. that is a big difference.. bigger than the difference between the hornet and super hornet.
I too much prefer aircraft with dedicated roles, more specifically of the Cold War era, they have much more character.
Enjoy
i particularly enjoy aircraft where they use a common design to produce specialized aircraft. aka viggen, tornado, and you could argue flankers