Royal Navy using force would be viewed as an open aggression not only by Argentina but also by the rest of countries that support their claims.
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First MiG-23s exported only after the end of the Vietnam war. The MiG-23M was only entering service with the USSR itself in the above mentioned time-frame.
The main reason the North Vietnam air force was not so successful against the Americans was probably simple because there were not enough MiG-21s available at any one time – the NVAF was too small.
no, Vietnam War ended in mid-1975
Syria received its first MiG-23s in 1973
I haven’t deleted (most) posts, just because this might be valuable advice for most posters, especially new ones, about what attitude to have on the forum.
Also, use of proper English is a must. I understand that not everyone is a native English speaker, which is fine. But everyone (native or not) should pay attention to write in a way that others can understand, and preferably without too many typos.That said, I won’t tolerate personal attacks, or insults.
This forum isn’t a fan club for one type of aircraft or the other, and if you post something debatable, expect criticism.
Let’s all sit back for a while, try to learn something from this, and listen to each other.
And now, let’s go back on topic, shall we ?
Regarding the LCS: wouldn’t it be useful for megalomanic dicators’ fishing trips ? :dev2:
you gotta be careful with people that use aircraft names as their user name..
oh wait…
Apparently J-10 procurement is currently off the plans and procurement is focusing on getting JF-17 which Pakistan has an economic incentive to induct in large numbers (i.e. increase potential for exports).
My forecast for 2025:
– 150-200 JF-17
– survivors of current 63 F-16 plus maybe some second hand upgrgraded F-16 if funds and politics allow.
– 100 Mirage III/V (60 upgraded to ROSE standard). Wouldn’t be surprised if more jets get upgraded to ROSE standard, especially if no funds are available for new jets.
indeed, no reason for them to go for J-10s at the current time.
Tell us more :rolleyes:.
hey baby, I’ll tell you every thing you want
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29831&Itemid=107
but it already started in 2010
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article728049.ece/We-wont-leave-Gripen-grounded–Sisulu
as for Serbia, they only began upgrading and overhauling 5 of its MiG-29s only 4 years ago, but already had issues operating them
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/fresh-delay-hits-serbian-mig-29-deal-224472/
one part says “Defence minister Dragan Sutanovac says the modernisation programme has missed its agreed schedule “due to failure of the Russian partner,””
it also brings up the problem Thobbes mentioned. qualified pilots. supposedly these overhauled mig-29s could’ve bridged the gap to the M2s.
There’s been no mention as to why. Could also be a lack of trained pilots – Serbia only recently started training new J-22 Orao pilots.
With only MiG-29s in the fleet and all of them out of service due to overhaul, pilot currency could’ve disappeared or the pilots themselves moved on to other jobs.
wanna take a guess to as how long before these new MiGs go into long term storage, like the South African Gripens?
some how this looks very right. very natural
perhaps during a time when a west german defected to the warsaw pact
Sexy Kirchner… Urrrgh.
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nothing wrong with Kirchner..
look at this mamacita

Obviously F-18 Hamburg…. I mean Y-20 Bacons topic is hypothetical, and based around a 2 to 2,5% of GDP defence spend.
With this is mind, and concentrating on aviation solely, and considering that it is actually not chump change like the small change the current armed forces have to survive on, I would do the following:
Like it or not, The Falklands is an issue.
With this in mind, some Su-27xx/Su-30xx or hatever derivitives. One of Argentinas primary problems in 1982 was that it’s planes were operating at the extreme end of their range, allowing very little leeway for anything really when over the combat zone.
The Su-30 is ideal for this, with massive internal fuel capacity. I would ensure a retractable refuelling probe came with the deal.
24 – 28 aircraft, or 2 squadrons worth.
Leaving aside the Falklands, Argentina is geographically a very big country. Add France, Germany, Spain, Italy, and the entire UK together. Then add 3 more Germanies, and that is roughly the size of Argentina.
So range would be useful in other contexts.Next, I would add something different. I would look to buy the J-31. If after testing it shows a substantial reduction in RCS frontally (Chinese espionage surely delivered shortcuts to their domestic teams already clearly working on this), I would ensure datalinking and AAM compatability with the Su-30’s. They have to come with inflight refuelling probes.
4 Squadrons of these please, or 48 to 60 aircraft.It has been strongly suggested that the J-31 has been designed with consideration of a carrier borne variant in mind. Thus, this purchase could bear fruit later.
Off to Brazil next, where I would purchase the Embraer KC-390 in Transport, ECM/Jamming, Tanker, AEW, and MPA.
If not the KC-390, then something like the An-70, which seems to be pegged at less than half the price of the A-400M.
Order more Pampa trainer jets.
Pick a medium/large chopper, and order sufficient quantities. Eurocopter could be looked at. The small chopper is covered already.
Expensive, but doable in a phased approach over a few years. You will have quite a capable force geared toward the single most likely touch-off point, The Falklands/Malvinas, but also quite capable on other Argentine requirements.
The driving force must be compatability in the way these units communicate with each other. An absolute essential, even if it takes an indigineous data-link system between them all.
Over long range, you’d want the AEW, Su-30s, and J-31s putting each other in the picture, or handing info off to each other at appropriate times.Why so little Western European/US sharp point combat equipment?
I would think it rather obvious, seeing how some of those suppliers compromised the Argentine force, whether they were right or wrong, before.
And they are, after all, within an economic and loose political union.It is also not 1945-1991 anymore.
The world keeps revolving, and moves on, with different players in the game now.All hypothetical, and IMHO of course.
Political realities would likely prove very different.
your ideas is quite clever and interesting.
Flanker seems very logical choice.
however the flanker and j-31 combination is interesting and I ask why those two?
why not say flanker and pak-fa? (same supplier) or flanker and j-20.
j-31 looks nice and tasty but big question is range.
I always thought the F3 ‘prettier’ than the GR1 but the GR4 beats both!
can you really tell the difference between the GR1 and GR4 externally?
you guys are focusing too much on fighters.
looking at wikipedia, their maritime assets also look quite poor and need upgrading.
the only thing positive I see are helicopters and trainers because they can make some on their own.
funding, well its hypothetical but as I mentioned.. if they raised their budget to internationally standard levels.. like 2.5%, they’d have a budget similar to that of Turkey which is doing lots of weapons shopping.
RAAF F/A-18F Super Hornet.
this one is really nice. As i said before, I really like the look of the 2 seater over the single seat.
the only time a 2 seat plane is ugly: mig-25, eurofighter typhoon, rafale.
this two seat plane is also quite nice. recognize it? the hornet replaced this one in the 80s and 90s
The Canadian Tonka looks ok but the delta wing looks stupid! Which aircraft’s wings were used for the Canadian aircraft?
Su-27. looks quite good no? ADV is the best looking tornado

model is made by Guy Lemieux
Oh really now? Sending weapons to terrorists in the ME, blatantly breaking international laws, what have we here :highly_amused:
yes they do. western culture is a culture of criticism. have you not heard of right wing americans complaining how American schools are anti-US?
There’s a reason why the Gripen has won more exports than many aircraft mentioned. It’s affordable, simple (in aviation terms), reliable and very capable and versatile. It’s manufacturer also has a history of producing solid aircraft.
yes indeed its a solid plane. but so are some other western planes that are surprisingly not mentioned.