[ATTACH=CONFIG]216190[/ATTACH] What’s my prize ?
wow very nais!
why dont Spain do it for all their Hornets?
it would be very useful since its main enemy is Morocco!
did the super hornet also get similar desert colors?
look how much better the Tornado ADV is
at a glance it looks like a 2 seat MiG-23 with F-15 style intakes
will ADV have meteor?
really good looking ship..
i bet the Chinese, French, USN, and Russians are green with envy.
I would’ve liked to see India buy a Gorshkov that wasn’t retrofitted with a ski-jump.
Just buy it as it was with missiles and what not (perhaps upgrade it to 2010 standards) and continue to operate upgraded SHARS or SHARS from the RN until the F-35B would be ready.
I think a heavy missile carrying carrier would be more useful in India’s case than a pure carrier.
I think F-16 is a better buy for Poland than Eurofighter:
1. Already operate 48 F-16C/D so fleet commonality.
2. Cheaper to operate.
3. Simplify logistics. Will have fleet of 96 aircraft based on two types (F-16/ MiG-29) rather than fleet of 96 aircraft based on 3.
4. Single squadron of Eurofighters (16-18 a/c) does not result in operational economies of scale, when compared to 4 squadrons (64 a/c) of F-16s.In an ideal world, I’d have replaced the MiG-29 with F-16 as well.
how about replacing the mig-29 with eurofighters?
also does Poland really need more than 50 fixed wing combat aircraft?
I was discussing India flying “Russian Types” and the success with said types.
It hurts doesn’t it…………..;)
Scoot, to make things simple for you on IAF vs PAF aircraft
mig-21 > f-104
jaguar > a-5
mig-27 > a-5
mystere > sabre
gnat > sabre
mig-23MF > mirage III
mirage 2000 = f-16
mig-29 < f-16
su-30mki > f-16
tejas > jf-17
as for MMRCA
Super Hornet would’ve made a fine ground attack aircraft and replace the Haguar and Mig-27
but Typhoon and Rafale met their requirements better for ToT and they are good aircraft. But maybe Rafale can’t meet the ToT either, some issues going on.
if Rafale failed, then still I prefer Typhoon over Super Hornet.
Only the four Typhoon members (possibly Austria too as they’re interested in some elements for their Typhoons) are funding these upgrades, so if Poland decides to purchase Tranche 1 units for 2017 or beyond, they’ll be with those enhancements and upgrades. As I say, the whole idea of these is so there’s a common fleet of Tranche 1s, 2s and 3s.
quite curious.
could Austria and Saudi Arabia also get these upgrades for free?
do you have a source?
Typhoon option is beginning to look nice.
Not being over-sensitive at all. Besides, you’re obviously not aware of the Drop upgrades (there’s at least five of these), nor the Evolution Package 1 upgrades, or the CORP upgrades or even the R2Q & R2P upgrades. All funded by the Consortium members – see above.
so you’re saying if Poland wanted to buy Tranche 1 typhoons, they can get free upgrades to make it a2g compatible with guided munitions and what not
Tornado is the best looking pan-European aircraft ever
but I much prefer the ADV flavor over the IDS
if only they took the ADV and multi-roled it, just so we can see bombs hanging off the more elegant variant
i’ve read that Peru prefers its mig-29s over their Mirage 2000s. While mig-29 spares can be difficult to get due to supplier issues.. they have the opposite problem where the French have spares available but they are ridiculously expensive. perhaps even offsetting the costs of the Mirage’s cheaper operational costs.
You were. You seem to have thought Tranche 1s are going to stay as they are until Poland makes a decision.
that’s not a question, that’s your own assumption. You don’t know that Poland is willing to spend extra money to add a2g capabilities on early typhoons when used f-16s and their existing f-16s can already do that.
stop being over-sensitive towards your favorite aircraft and just be comfortable with the fact that Tranche 1s have very limited a2g and will remain so with out significant upgrades whose costs is most likely to be born by the customer.
If that is even close to the truth (and if by “supersonic” he means comfortably in excess of Mach 1) we might be looking at an aircraft meant to replace both the Su-27 and MiG-31 in one fell swoop. It would also explain the somewhat curious absence of certain RCS reduction measures and the variable intakes (you don’t need those to occasionally hit Mach 2.0 in a short dash, but if you expect to operate at or near Mach 2.0 on a regular basis they’ll certainly pay off).
if true then why all the talk of a mig-31 replacement
Anyway back to the topic …
how come no DSI
So then why question Typhoon’s capability?…
who was questioning it
Right, but my craft is only going to fly to 35 000 ft higher with turbofan and not trying to climb into space…there is a big difference…there is still air at 40-50 km.
SS1 has less aspect ratio..at least stubbier wings…and around 50% more interference drag.
it is interesting that rocket plane like Me-163 had only 0.42 power to weight ratio..worse than Mig-25 ( barely ); http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_163
you don’t have enough room for the radar avionics, look at a diagram to see how much space they occupy.
btw, the user here wants you to design an aircraft for her
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?124308-Will-we-ever-see-true-visual-stealth-in-our-lifetimes&